When using fixed stars most modern astrologers will give them only a 1 degree orb, but there is no clear rule. William Lily gave a 5 degree orb to first and 2nd magnitude stars. The Behenien stars get 6 degrees and Vivian Robson suggests a sliding scale “For a 1st magnitude star, 7’30 ; for a 2nd magnitude star, 5’30 ; for a 3rd magnitude 3’40 ; and for a 4th magnitude, 1’30.” [1]
Jamie and Marina both have their different preferences. Jamie going with the modern way, using more stars and tighter orbs. Marina prefers less stars and the use of 3 degrees with 1st magnitude & Behenien stars. 2 degrees for 2nd magnitude stars near the ecliptic. Fixed Stars and Precession gives a detailed explanation of why we focus on stars & constellations in our work
| POSITION 2000 AD | FIXED STAR | CONSTELLATION |
| . | ||
| 03°11′ Taurus | Mesarthim | Aries |
| 03°58′ Taurus | Sheratan | Aries |
| 07°40′ Taurus | Hamal | Aries |
| 24°12′ Taurus | Capulus | Perseus |
| 26°10′ Taurus | Algol | Perseus |
| 00°00′ Gemini | The Pleiades (Alcyone) | Taurus |
| 28°45′ Gemini | Betelgeuse | Orion |
| 18°31′ Cancer | Wasat | Gemini |
| 29°50′ Leo | Regulus | Leo |
| 23°41′ Virgo | Alkes | Crater |
| 13°27′ Libra | Algorab | Corvus |
| 09°14′ Sagittarius | Han | Ophiuchus |
| 07°58′ Sagittarius | Sabik | Ophiuchus |
| 22°27′ Sagittarius | Ras Alhague | Ophiuchus |
| 29°45′ Sagittarius | Sinistra | Ophiuchus |
| 01°47′ Aquarius | Altair | Aquila |
| 03°52′ Pisces | Fomalhaut | Piscis Austrinus |
| 29°22′ Pisces | Scheat | Pegasus |
1. The Fixed stars and Constellation in astrology p103, Vivian Robson.
hello sir, i just want to know that would i be able to get a job in a good company in the upcoming year i.e. in 2012 as i m in the final year of my engineering sir please help me.
i need to know how i can check for fixed stars and asteroids.
where can i find some planetwatcher website with transits of these stars and astreoids?
Jean, the only way I now is at Constellations of Words: http://www.constellationsofwords.com/stars/Stars_in_longitude_order.htm
Hi I personnaly have a Sun tightly conjunct to the Facies in the 5 house and saturn exalted in the second house in libra. I am looking to get information about that star, but it seems that nobody really agree its real meaning. I personaly dont believe that it is a so bad star, but I have a bad time finding interesting cases. Any help ?
Hi Julian,
It’s another one of those difficult stars that needs to be used at a very high vibration otherwise it can be very ruthless, rather like Pluto. The orb has to be very tight with Nebulas, Jamie says it has to be very tight I think under 30′.
Otherwise Bernadette Brady says this of Facies:
“Facies is the penetrating stare of a lethal weapon. It holds the most difficult and possibly the most violent symbolism in the Heavens. It represents a penetration of action that has no regard for others and a perosn capable of this can become a great leader or a fearsome dictator (I think Hitler had Facies somewhere) The other side of Facies is the individual who may be victim of the archers stare. Facies can thus be cruel and ruthless or in a gentler manifestation, it can symbolize strong focused energy producing someone who is a high achiever but somewhat brusque in manner”
Now Saturn may tone it down or make it even colder. How do you feel it works for you, have you been accused of being cold and callous or are you the victim of it? Or do you work in a field where precision and strong nerves are needed? Surgery I’m thinking, or bomb diffusion!
Hi M – I have just done a chart for a really tragic case – I’ve posted something about it on the Ceres page – its a male sex abuse victim with some impossibly awful stuff to sort out. Amongst the plethora of nasties is Facies conj Lilith…
He has Sun Ceres conj opp PLuto and square Saturn, Dschubba on Saturn. This man was sexually abused by his grandfather. One of his siblings was murdered by the grandfather during an abuse incident (choked to death) and the grandmother and family kept it concealed and passed off as an accident.
Theres much more to this story but I don’t want to go into the details – its all too grim. Uranus and PLuto will conj Facies and Lilith for this man and Neptune and Chiron are now on the T square… Poor soul.
I put the chart through the Chakra took and it was incredibly revealing – gave me a whole other dimension as was able to see which chakra the energies were expressing through and whether they were yin or yang energies.
Interestingly, the mooladhara chakra has the moon in Gemini as a yin expression (Bellatrix conj?) This is again, familial and instinctual and in the base chakra very crude. A different angle on the dark side of a moon and duplicitous too at this very crude instinctive level. As if duplicity is in the limbic of the moon intelligence…
Facies and Lilith conj are square Venus and Eris in the 12th… between 8/10 degrees so will have Pluto and Uranus in turn touching this square… Saturn is opposing Sedna in his 12th. Karma and the forgotten enraged feminine.
I think putting the stars in the chakras where possible and finding if they are yin or yang could be really useful as one is active, one is passive or masc/fem pos/neg etc
I wish there was a way to calculate where the Lilith Facies conj falls in the Chakra system.
sorry that should read Chakra tool …
I’m wondering if our callus,dictatorial prime minister Stephen Harper has the Facies prominent in his chart? I’m not familiar with this nebula but he is unbelievable. Many years before his election (by only 38% of Canadians) he was wooing the American right with promises of ending our so called welfare state which was working just fine. He told them no one would recognize our country when he was through with his plans. I wonder how we will be able to get rid of him? He has a planet in almost every sign and a cold Aquarius moon. I’m not sure if it is common knowledge but we have been taken over by the religious right here in Canada. Harper is an Evangelical Christian. Very Scary!
Where are the Facies in the sky?
I just found my copy of Vivian Robson’s fixed stars so I know it is a star in Capricorn at 7 degrees. I just answered my own question. As for Harper, he has it conjunct Saturn! He stops at nothing to impose his agenda. He just passed a draconian crime bill which will increase our prison population by at least 30% when crime in Canada is rapidly decreasing and has been for decades. His whole approach is punitive. He won’t listen to anyone, controls his government absolutely, and ignores parliamentary procedures. In other words he thinks he’s the king of Canada and we, who didn’t vote for him, loath him.
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I have a question regarding fixed stars and “Relocation Charts” (basically a chart drawn up but instead of your birthplace it’s for the place you’re either moving to or visiting)… Would they have a muted or lesser effect in a relocation chart if the relocated Midheaven were conjunct one of these stars, or would it have similar power to the natal Midheaven?
In particular I’m wondering about fixed star Praesaepe (around 6-7 Leo), if anyone has any experience with that particular star.