Sun square Pluto’s persona is serious about secrecy and control. The subjects personal life may remain a mystery, as they are experts at armour plating their true emotions. They don’ t let much slip and can be extreme control freaks. The word anal was invented for these guys, for they rule over their domain with an iron will and a steel fist. They need to know where everything is at all times and woe betide anyone who changes the order of their alphabetically arranged CD collection. They can be intimidating and in extreme cases tyrannical. Sometimes the father can be experienced in this way.
These people can be stalkers and obsessive callers, they panic if their lover doesn’t return a text or goes off radar. To Sun square dark Pluto it’s like they have died or something. They have a real fear of death, but in their panic they are often self sabotaging and create the very scenario they fear the most. They are are most afraid of their demonic, unacceptable, beastly thoughts, which can translate as feeling that something about them is ugly, and that they are deformed in someway. They might hide behind a mask, this could be simply very plain or dark clothes they can disappear behind or conversely elaborate, over-the-top freakish make-up. Anything that distracts from the real self that they find unacceptable. However as you can see from the list of celebrities below, once this square is mastered, the power and magic of the aspect is phenomenal. At some point they may indeed have to face some sort of “death”. Having survived this they become indestructible and exude the awesome aura of a Phoenix that has been through the flames and come out 10 times stronger.
Sun Square Pluto Celebrities
Sun square Pluto personalities all have a strong presence, examples are Joanna Lumley (67′), William Wordsworth (60′), Omar Shariff (94′) and Ricky Martin (73′). Dirk Bogarde (19′) and Leonardo Di Vinci (28′) both kept their private life hidden, 80′s popstar Morrissey (65′) was noted for his emotionless, dead-pan drone and “Elephant man” John Merrick (81′) was hideously deformed concealing the cultured and intelligent gentlemen within.
Super-secretive Barbra Streisand (05′) even had “The Streisand Effect” named after her; “a primarily online phenomenon in which an attempt to hide or remove a piece of information has the unintended consequence of perversely causing the information to be publicized more widely” [1], we also get imposing comic John Cleese, who made a career out of playing warped, OCD stricken dictators in the guise of headmasters, policemen and bank managers.“”Ministry Of Silly Walks sketch says it all, still that control and seriousness, despite the utter freakiness of the persons gait. Other Sun Pluto aspect subjects, Gerry McCann.
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how do you view declinations? for ex, sun parallel pluto in a chart?
thanks! great blog, by the way, so detailed.
To me they are like a weak conjunction. I take notice of them when they are both conjunct and parallel Thats makes them extra strong and is called an “Occultation”. Great word.
Marina – gotta agree – aspects all have their pos/neg sides, as do planets and signs – there is also a terrible tendency to want it to be ‘alright’ all the time – without the grit and friction the pearl does not form
A natal square also has its transits so the square will be expresses accordingly. E.g a transit of Venus conj Pluto in that square would be very different from a transit of Saturn.
Nice analogy re pearls. My house is full of oyster shells and I’m positively being strangled but the pearls!!!
Sun 25 Taurus in the 5th square Leo Pluto in the 8th. December 23 1978 my “PhoenixDay”. Elise was stillborn that day and I wasn’t far behind but was told by “them” that “this time you get to make a choice, stay here or go back to your body”. Well, here I am and I have never feared death since and I’m so much less controlling. Live and let live is a much better philosophy. Good things that came out of that day tho. I was asked to donate Elise’s heart for a study that was trying to find out what was making athletes drop dead and could help with understanding SuddenInfantDeathSyndrom. They now call it HypertropicCardioMyopathy. Her little heart helped the world but broke mine that day. I did go on to have 2 sons and am now a Gma to a 2 year old Scorpio miss that came just about 6 weeks short of what would have been her auntieEllises 30th Bday. Nov 6 2008, what an ornery lil booger but I love her silly.
What a sad but also heart warming story. The heart disease in athletes came to the fore in the UK two weeks ago when a 23 year old soccer player collapsed in front of 40,000 people having a cardiac arrest. Lucky for him there was expert aid available and he survived and seems to be making good progress. The disease is still hard to detect but thanks to Elise not as hard as it was.
That little Scorpio sounds gorgeous!
I think that the sun glyph, to me, shows me the true nature of that aspect. Pluto tries to change our Sun, and sometimes too much. I cope better with this aspect when I remmember that the Sun Glyph is a circle around a dot. So its about boundaries, and Sun-Pluto ppl must respect his own boundaries and other ppl boundaries. they must learn to hear the word “no” and to say “no”. Often we are compelled to impossible tasks and demand the same from others.
We simply can say “no”. When I want something that seems difficult or impossible, I reason if I really want this, do my best and say “no” to other alternatives.
I don’t need to give in to every dark desire (pluto) – I can say no to a need and not even expressing it, replacing it with something more constructive to everyone (including myself)
I also don’t need to give in to every “light” imposition (Sun) – I can too, like anyone else, have egoistic desires that I want, and say no to alternatives of other ppl, and pay the price for it.
What I need is to discriminate and balance light and darkness. But I discovered that when I want something, it doesnt come to me unless I do the effort to change myself first, then my reality is altered.
with the squre, I think I just can’t have it for free – talk to trine or sextile people if you want a free ride.
We aren’t winners of the genetic pool, pluto wants to strenghten our willpower. Watch the old film “Gattacca” and you will understand.
yours.