Jupiter Square/Opposite Pluto ~ Cults

Jupiter square or opposite Pluto can be a zealous preacher, obsessive predator or magician. Sometimes all at the same time! At the very worst, this archetype is one of a cult leader who abuses his power in order to have sex with his disciples. Jupiter is religion/law and Pluto is politics.

As a transit, this can be a period where one can feel witch-hunted and persecuted or worried about rubbing authorities up the wrong way. This does not mean bowing down to these ‘masters’, just having to be careful with tactics. Going down the most direct, activist route only gives the elite an excuse to censor and crank down even harder on the dissent. The freedom is fought for however, but underground.

Jupiter Square Pluto ~  4 August 2017

Pluto does things in secret and the reason Jupiter’s wisdom is occulted is to keep the manifestation magic for themselves (Hence secret societies). The vampiric minority elite then use that sorcery to extract energy/money/resources from the majority. At the same time the inexperienced shouldn’t fool around with this powerful energy either. Opening channels to godly dimensions can overload a fragile human already challenged by everyday pollutants. Pluto detoxing is vital then, in order to safety hold the light without blowing a fuse. One also needs that clarity in order to discern the authenticity of any wisdom received. Is it truth or propaganda?

Jupiter and Pluto have abduction and sex in common, but their mating strategy is very different. Jupiter was a greedy nymph chaser who loved and left them, while Pluto stalked exclusively his child bride Persephone whom he wanted to keep captive for all of time. You can see this Jupiter/Pluto can easily bring about an obsessive pursuit of a love object. The same themes of pedophilia come up again, but also death cults. Religious martyrdom and suicide bombers could be a manifestation of this aspect in the collective. One must be careful not to project most negative of this very transpersonal aspect onto someone personally. Psychopathic tendencies and satanic ritual abuse are just one of many ways this aspect can play out.

Jupiter Opposite Pluto Transit

Jupiter square opposition plutoJupiter opposite Pluto is a powerful rod, but it is a conductor. The problem with this aspect is in identifying too much with the power that is being channeled. Those who have this aspect natally, or those that have personal planets plugging into this in the sky must guard the tendency to think that they are the God/dess themselves rather than being the servant of the deity in question. As Robert Hand warns

“This can be a time when you get promotion in your work or gain power in some other way to change the lives of people around you. But it can also be a time when all your efforts come to nothing and that you find yourself loosing out in a perpetual war with people in power”  [1]

Jupiter opposite Pluto happened twice in 2014. That year, the Gods of the BBC were brought down by pedophile sex scandals involving various celebrities presenters and underage girls. “ Jupiter’s need for continual expansion can result in an over inflated sense of reality that has no basis in the real world. Pluto on the other hand demands nothing less than Truth with a capital “T” – the ultimate Truth that can be known only when artifice and the superficial are discarded, and when Pluto interacts with Jupiter the inflated hopes and dreams of Jupiter can often be burst.”Lynn Hayes

Lynn’s quote describes very well how these jovial presenters inflated sense of self was stripped down by Pluto’s truncheon. Jupiter opposite Pluto can relate to the Catholic Church too. In September 2013, Ex-Pope Benedict denied covering up sexual abuse by Catholic priests as pressure mounted on him to speak-out on the matter. As with all oppositions, the challenge is integrating the two opposites. Power and religion can combine to make a fanatic. As you can see from the list below, this opposition can bring super success. The problem is that it also can generate a lot of resentment because of the ruthless tactics used to get to the top. This opposition can bring trouble with authorities and the law. Depending on which side is being activated, one can be the judge or the criminal. It can also be addiction (Pluto) V religions (Jupiter).

Jupiter/Pluto ~ Hard Aspects

Jupiter Square Pluto

Jupiter square opposition plutoYou can see from the list below there are some really eminent folk below with this aspect. But I decided to highlight those who were most interesting in terms of the taboo/occult side of this aspect.

Marina Abramovic is a performance artist who fashions herself as a bit of a witch. She has carved a pentagram onto her stomach with a razor-blade and has been photographed with serpents and goats skulls. Marina invented the term Spirit-cooking which involves consuming various body fluids. The cult leader aspect plays out pretty strongly with Marina as she is held in high regard by fashionable elites and politicians.

Mackenzie Phillips had an incestuous relationship with her father John for 10 years. John was a member of the band ironically called the “Mammas & Papas”. Mackenzie wrote a book about the whole story but shocked the world when she said most of the sex was drug-fuelled and consensual. The relationship ended when she was 19 years of age. Pluto toxins, abduction of a minor, abuse of godlike celebrity status. It’s all there. Mackenzie used this aspect in a positive way in the end. She became a whistleblower on the toxic corruption (Pluto) and the grooming of children within the world of the elite gods. (Jupiter).

More Jupiter square Pluto: Vladimir Putin, Albert Einstein, Yuri Gagarin, Johann Sebastian Bach, Serge Rachmaninoff, Eleanor Roosevelt, Eminem, Joan Baez, Jose Carreras, Chaka Khan, Robert Smith, Geri Halliwell, Frank Zappa, Bryan Adams, Leonard Cohen, Liam Gallagher, Weird Al Yankovic, Serge Gainsbourg, Sophia Loren, Christopher Lee, Cameron Diaz, Charles Bronson, Richard Pryor, Kyle MacLachlan, Sean Bean, Emma Thompson, Faye Dunaway, Christopher Reeve, Mickey Rourke, Judy Garland, Elizabeth Hurley, Tom Baker, Cary Grant, Ben Affleck, Gwyneth Paltrow, Brigitte Bardot, Paula Yates, John McEnroe, Gianni Versace, Mackenzie Phillips, Ted Bundy, Dita Von Teese, Marina Abramovic, Max Ernst, Otto Dix, Terence McKenna, Mark Twain, Jeane Dixon.

Jupiter Opposite Pluto

Natalie Cole is a great example of this aspect since she overcame addictions to heroin and crack cocaine and redeemed herself through spirituality. Two out of her three husbands were connected to religion. Her first husband Marvin Yancy was a Baptist minister he also influenced her conversion to become a devout Baptist. Her last husband was Bishop Kenneth Dupree. David Gahan of Depeche Mode also battled heroin addiction, his band Depeche Mode’s material is littered with Christian iconography in songs like  ‘Personal Jesus’ and album titles such as  ‘Songs of Faith & Devotion’ and  ‘Playing The Angel’.

More Jupiter opposite Pluto: Saddam Hussein, Margaret Thatcher, Mata Hari, Isabella I Of Castile, Elizabeth Of Bavaria, Socrates, Colin Powell, George Carlin, Gore Vidal, Jack Nicholson, Warren Beatty, Peter Sellers, Johnny Carson, Morgan Freeman, Cybil Shepherd, Julie Waters, Jane Fonda, Morgan Fairchild, Honor Blackman, Jason Connery, Wesley Snipes, Jack Lemmon, Connie Francis, B. B King, Frankie Valli, Peter Gabriel, Natalie Cole, Adele, David Gahan, Jeff Stryker, Miriam Stoppard, Paul Cezanne, Robert Altman, Lady Bird Johnson, Tracy Caulkins, Jay Rockefeller, Alan Whicker.

1. Robert Hand. Planets In Transit. Pg 307.

34 thoughts on “Jupiter Square/Opposite Pluto ~ Cults

  1. So looks like Pluto. slower planet, is bound to have the upper hand, which is why the excess is brought to Justice. Pluto is impressing upon Jupiter, Jupiter is in its face. Are they going to be calling each other names? (Projection onto the polarity?) Jupiter says Pluto is excessive, Pluto says Jupiter is abusing position of authority, i.e. power? Seems like with Venus ruler of Libra, again Justice, going SD on Feb 1st is also giving Pluto an added element. My money is on Pluto bringing down the excess. Is it a leap to say that the moon ruled Cancer sign which Jupiter is now expressing is making this excess largely motivated by feelings, false sense of security and largely unconscious?

  2. Today as I taking a friend of mine to hospital i heard a terrible noise. It was a seagull but it sounded ‘hysterical’. We looked up and saw a seagull carrying a pigeon in its beak. It carried it away and flew behind some tall buildings.
    Jupiterian strength indeed with plutonic overtones.
    My whole day has been full of coercion. Suicide threats, manipulation and outright lies. Truth has been in short supply.
    Marina, I wish I’d read this yesterday!

  3. I wonder if the Jupiter/Pluto opposition relates to Fracking (Pluto) and an inflated government (Jupiter) seeking to change the law to suit themselves so that we can’t oppose what they seek to impose upon us?

  4. I’m glad in a way Chiron in Pisces is coming up to sextile Pluto conjunct Venus and thus trine Jupiter at this time too. Otherwise I think we could have a different “feel” about universal love and all it has to offer around the earth…
    May we live in interesting times!

  5. Jupiter here is so strong that Pluto presents a fly in the ointment, especially with a happy Aquarius sun. But It’s better not to ignore, like buying a big fancy house w/o checking plumbing. Pluto Capricorn dampens recourse, places limits as Jupiter sees all the things it wants to do…. push/pull child/parent at worse normal fun activity is seen indulgent, life turns hard.

  6. Emotional dramas… Jupiter in Cancer… Family drama underscored with power struggles and deep territorial issues, struggle for expansion against Plutonian family forces. I don’t know their planets but there is a news story this week about Netanyahu’s son dating a non Jewish Norwegian girl. Apparently this has caused outrage. He’s branching out and the old traditions of his family are down on him with full force. Jupiter opposite Pluto. With Jupiter conj Sirius, this story has wider implications. It could be construed as a racist issue. Of course there is a conflict of belief that Jewish is not a race. Perhaps Jupiter and Sirius are forcing very old stagnant issues to the fore.

  7. So interesting to read all these great comments. Am already experiencing the Jupiter push on Pluto to bring the hidden of long standing problem up to surface in one brief doctor visit on the 29th. The news was so liberating and shocking all at once that I experienced and extreme emotional release with a subsequent compulsion to contact a not so surprising unsympathetic family member and a reaching out to friends, testing the limits of relationships. This is such a whole ball of Jupiter Pluto Venus wax! In a way there as been Justice.

  8. Splendid read, lovely as always……..
    begun too! – become missed, “darkstarastrology articles”
    when no new reads appear,
    inside of this
    wonderful fourth dimensional
    time frame sphere.

  9. In addition to Jupiter opposing Pluto, Today Venus is direct and close to asteroid Persephone. Jupiter is opposite them all and conjunct my natal Persephone too. Chaos is conjunct my Natal Ceres in Gemini today Mars is transiting natal Neptune too.

    Tons of energy: I wrote a new 15-page screenplay today, besides cooking for tomorrow’s Super Bowl party, we’re making shrimp and chicken stuffed egg rolls, fresh pizza, rumaki, crab salad and party favors. Wish you all could come! —>BTW, since I’m from Washington, Go Seahawks! (Broncos are good too…)

    Good night all!

  10. I just found out about Woody Allen’s abuse of his adopted daughter Dylan. Interesting charts here: Maurice Fernandez Forum discusses Woody Allen.

    His nodes are at 13º Capricorn/ Cancer. So this opposition falls right across it now. He’s gonna get crucified on the Cardinal grand cross then on April 23 falling on those degrees. In this article I said “Both Jupiter and Pluto share sex in common. Chasing nymphs, raping and abduction are some of their “charms”….Add in the personal planets of love or sex that occur both on January 31 and April 23 then sexual addiction and obsession come up strong too.”

    Mars retrograde will pass over his Venus on Spica (02′). He has his Ceres return right now too. Persephone’s coming back at him! Wow. He has some big stars. Sun on Antares and Algol on the MC. His Fixed stars:

    1. He is as guilty as they come.. No wonder his movies are crammed with cynicism and all that he despises..
      Ive always seen a raging narcissist in him.. His continual therapy to talk about himself, always stamping his movies with his own opinions, and his characters always being an extention of him instead of full fledged individuals..
      Despicable man, proved out to be far worse than I had previousy imagined him to be

    2. Cause and effect.. He did this to his adopted daughter, leaving horrible wounds and anxieties..
      His actions caused a horrendous effect.. And she is the one left dealing with the effect of his actions..
      He is the narcissist/sociopath, and inflicted wounds of such magnitude, without having a concsience about it..
      Its what people like him do,
      And so, I believe 100% he is guilty

    3. and despite Woody Allen being all that, he still managed to become rich and successful.. funny how the “system” works!

    4. my music teacher had this w/ Gemini M, totally sex obsessed, needed a straight jacket. Uranus 0 Taurus, mental sat/Pisces submersion, Pluto/cancer does deep business at home, mars/Capricorn outward power. Air Moon/venus & sag/sun throws glitter into our eye

    5. The guy has some major boundary issues at the very least – I mean, what sane person would look at their ex’s adopted daughter and say “Yeah, I think it’s totally appropriate for me to hit that”? Ewww.

      I guess the ultimate litmus test for me is always “Would YOU allow him around YOUR daughter, unattended?” If that answer is “No”, something’s not right in the milk, IMHO.

      There’s a lot of character assassination going around re: Mia Farrow in the wake of all this, just like when they first split up back in the day. People are painting her as a crazy brainwashing wench, but I’m not so sure this isn’t skewed. I mean, I would go positively APESH!T if my ex BF/former lover made a move on my daughter, regardless of whether she was 10, 20, 30 or whatever when this happened. He had his…erm…snake in me, and now he wants to root around in my child’s undies? I DON’T THINK SO! It’s beyond gross that someone would have such a complete lack of boundaries like this and see nothing wrong with boinking his former lover’s daughter. And now these allegations with Dylan? Talk about keeping it “all in the family”…what a gross misuse of the Cancer/Capricorn axis! With Pluto about to sit on his very public Capricorn NN and Venus just stationing direct conjunct it, all this filth is coming to the surface regarding his image. Note that it’s in the 5th House of children. The Capricorn NN is not any easy one to have – you really have to play by the book and keep your nose clean. And with his beleaguered Saturn, it seems he has a very difficult time doing this!

      What blows my mind is when people try to rationalize/justify his behavior. They say things like “he was never convicted” or “there wasn’t sufficient evidence”, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t do it. Child molesters are often very good at hiding their actions and making sure there’s plausible deniability, i.e. “my word against theirs”. It makes me rather ill that someone would side against the potential victim of such awful abuse simply because we don’t have videotape of him “in the act”.

      I speak as someone who was molested as a youngster. I was fortunate in that my story was believed when I spoke out about it years later, but had the perp been a Hollywood bigshot with lots of fame, money, and influence, I might not have been so fortunate – such people tend to surround themselves with plenty of sycophants, or at the very least, others are more willing to “look the other way” for a variety of reasons. My own assailant was a “good guy”, beloved by many, but only *I* knew how screwed up his boundaries were that he thought it OK to inappropriately touch and kiss someone who was like a little sister to him when I was a decade younger than him and just a child. I also have someone in my family who was accused (but not tried and convicted) of sexually abusing a minor. They committed suicide before they could stand trial. In my heart of hearts, knowing what I know of my family history and knowing what I know of him, I believe the allegations against him were 100% true. Yet there are still members of my family living in an alternate “reality”, insisting it was hogwash. Yeah, OK. The rest of us just know him as “The Creepy ________” because we’re just jerks. This has absolutely no basis in reality whatsoever, the fact that he would get drunk all the time and tell the younger girls over and over how “beautiful” they were. These were not the innocent ramblings of an overly loving drunkard, I assure you – there was a subtext and energetic undercurrent that felt very dirty/sinister.

      My heart goes out to any potential victims of sexual abuse, because I know how hard it is to 1) talk about it 2) risk dealing with the fallout. It’s far better that we err on the side of caution & protect our daughters & sisters than to naysay their allegations and compound the damage by not believing them. Regardless of what we can or can’t prove in this case, no one can dispute that this guy has some really screwy boundaries, which to me speaks volumes on its own. Bad boundaries are the hallmark necessary to allow things like this to happen, and Woody certainly has that in spades with a Sun/Neptune square and Saturn in Pisces – in the 7th House, no less! – squaring his Sadge Stellium of Dubious Judgment. Woody seems like the gaslighing type to me, and with his Aquarius Moon opposite his Ascendant, I’m sure he has no difficulty projecting his “crazy” onto his partners.

      I wonder, if you took away the Hollywood connection and his “art”, how many would still be standing on this guy’s side? Because all you would have left is a creepy, peculiar, bespectacled old dude with a penchant for younger women – even Mia was 10 years his junior!

  11. “The UN has demanded that the Vatican “immediately remove” all clergy who are known or suspected child abusers. The UN watchdog for children’s rights denounced the Holy See for adopting policies allowing priests to sexually abuse thousands of children. This is the first time the Holy See is defending itself in public over its sex abuse record” ~ BBC NEWS

    The whole concept is just..weird. The Holy SEE?!!

    1. Holy See? More like Eye of Sauron! That’s MUCH more appropriate for Jupiter opposite Pluto in Capricorn!


      Whatever the Vatican’s been overseeing, it definitely hasn’t been rooting out the corruption of so-called “authority figures” within the church. Focus on rooting out these egregious abuses of power, not hiding the problem, guys. Figures that the UN (Jupiter/Uranus) would be the ones blowing this up to public eye once again with the T-square in effect.

    2. “Holy See? More like Eye of Sauron!”
      Loved this, great way of putting it!

  12. On this grand cardinal cross transit I have all three of those giants directly conjunct my Ascendant?!! My Ascendant is on Sirius 13 degree Cancer. I’m a bit worried considering how dangerous planets like Pluto and Uranus are attacking Jupiter on that exact placement. To make matter worse, Pluto is Libra 4th house and Uranus Scorpio 4th in my natal chart. Something horrific is going on in my 4th house. Jupiter is 29 degree Taurus 11th house (Pleiades). I think it would scare the crap out of me to be a conduit for other dimensions….

  13. I have, am, experiencing the fall of my oldest deepest sacred cow. Cared so much for the person. Covered the sacred butt time and time again. Loyal to the point that I would have laid my life down. It will never be the same. Ripped me to my core. I’m better for it, but I still get that gnawing inside. So long, like forever, a part of me. A relationship that affected all other relationships. I can’t think about it. Time will heal.

  14. this has been very challenging, more than I had realised it would be thus being caught up in that cardinal cross in april by my 12th house moon, is not giving me any balm for the nervous tension…

    1. ETA I know this has passed, its the fall out after the initial blast thats causing the upheaval grrr 🙂 yep I am one passive aggressive loonie lunar gal just now (uranus moving into opposition of my moon may just have something to do with the volatility of my emotional reactions, to said fall out)

  15. So, speaking of sex scandals (Pluto)….how about the one involving yoga guru (Jupiter) Bikram Choudhury? Have you guys read any of the Vanity Fair articles that were published on this topic back in Dec/Jan?


    I feel really bad for practitioners of Bikram yoga in the wake of this scandal – It’s definitely not good press when your guru is accused of something like this…

    This line, in particular, stood out to me – “Lynn’s quote describes very well how these jovial presenters inflated sense of self was stripped down by Pluto’s truncheon”. If the VF article doesn’t mirror this precise sentiment, I don’t know what does…..!

    I find it interesting that this was also around the time of Lilith’s last conjunction to Jupiter, both being trine Saturn in Scorpio then…could it be that Lilith was demanding accountability for this guru’s perverse use of his “authority”? We will have to see how this all shakes out……

  16. Anything about Jupiter conjunct Pluto? I have Pluto at 26 degrees of Leo, and Jupiter 4 degrees away at 0 degrees Virgo. I have noticed that this aspect makes me VERY comfortable with the “dark side” of the occult, especially with Saturn in Scorpio exactly SQUARE Pluto. Since Chronos/Saturn (father of BOTH Jupiter and Pluto) was imprisoned in Tartarus (Pluto’s realm) by Jupiter, I figure Pluto and his dad have a sort of “close relationship” with each other in a way. Being friendly with the dark side has been an advantage in life; it is a lot less likely to hit you over the head and drag you into its clutches; you get to ride along in Pluto’s chariot instead of being dragged on to it kicking and screaming. It must never be forgotten that while Persephone was taken away against her will, she also ended up the Queen of the Underworld, married to the most powerful Olympian,who was even more powerful and formidable than Jupiter, along with all the wealth of the Earth at her command (“Pluto” means “wealth”) AND Pluto was not an abusive or cheaty husband the way Jupiter was; in fact he only ever looked at one other woman, the nymph Mentha- and Persephone turned her into a mint plant. So to write Pluto off merely as a evil rapist is a mistake.

    1. but pluto is not evil in itself, it just has a certain energy. the aspect in my chart that I feel most puzzled by is the pluto-jupiter-mercury-saturn stellium. I feel sensitive and rather tender-hearted and dreamy and this is like a metallic force-field or battery of resources. It is rather impersonate and seems harsh to my sensitive soul and other neptunian aspects. but I guess it brings great power, as with all pluto aspects a fascination with power, or insight in power, and since the pluto is imploding energy and jupiter is expanding, its sort of electro-magnetic and you can use it either way. but what is power? its just intensity.
      you have to sort of surrender and let it pass through you, through the natural world, to be sublimated into various natural powers, flow with it and release it, not try to catch it, then it gets thwarted. Pluto-jupiter is transformation, and a good way to be creative, I think it might help for the dramatic arts (theatre) , and other arts, for example.

  17. Interesting. I think the cult of Islam is possibly the most obvious though politically incorrect example of institutionalised religious paedophilia, which is in plain sight and something only the very courageous among us dare to tackle. Child brides are the norm in middle eastern countries and countries that are dominated by muslims. Even in the UK we have young teens being married off in secret ceremonies in mosques or sent off abroad to marry. I think you have your Persephone right there, taken to hell by an embodiment of Pluto, which is too fearful to look upon directly without getting burned. We are all so tolerant and all embracing, after all, that 1400 non muslim girls in Rotherham were raped and molested by Pakistani muslim men over many years, and the media deliberately ignored it because it was ‘too politically sensitive’. That is Jupiter protecting itself, as the benevolent establishment and two-tier criminal justice system, one rule for the majorities, one for the minorities. Unfortunately the media has a strangehold on public awareness and the clever muslim brotherhood invention of the term ‘Islamaphobia’ is used to protect it from facing up to the challenges of western liberalism and freedoms.

    1. You have obviously never been to any Middle Eastern country or any Muslim country Whiterose. You have only been listening to fear based media propaganda! There is no Middle Eastern or Muslim country where “child bride” is llegal except from one single country and that is Yemen. The legal age for marriage in Muslim countries is 18 and breaking this rule can lead to punishment. !

    2. And Pakistan: “Seven percent married before they reached the age of 15 years. Other estimates quote that around 30% of the marriages in Pakistan fall under the child marriage category with the highest prevalence in the Sindh province”

      Then there is the problem of 1st cousin marriages and the health defects that come out of that. The problem is high in the UK.

  18. Re Mammas & Pappas and all comparable situations: – A child and/or young teen being psychologically manipulated into sex with an adult is never mutually “consensual”. It is an adult coercing and distorting the mind, emotions, psyche and beliefs of a young mind that is still in development (and the brain is still forming until age 24), in order to use their young body for sex. It is an adult manipulating a child/youth who is impressionable and naive, is inexperienced in life, often doesn’t properly understand what sex is, and is certainly not emotionally & psychologically mature enough, or even physically developed enough, for sex or a sexual relationship, particularly at an adult level, and not yet able to understand the reality of what is actually going on. And so the young person often blames themselves, or believes it is true love, and other distortions of reality, etc. But the fact its kept secret shows the manipulative powers of the adult over the child/youth.

  19. it is to my understanding that Jupiter square Pluto is a strong person but I believe that Jupitrans can stand better if they realized sooner that they are being used and forget emotions and fight, also speaking on emotions I suggest; follow your heart but also listen to your head and don’t let the game play you, you play the game……I should know for I’m a Jupitran and I’ve done it

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