Mars Square/Opposite Saturn ~ Execution

Mars Square or opposite Saturn is most commonly associated with violence mainly because of the combination of the two malefics with the two most challenging aspects you can have in astrology. The native is extremely competitive, especially with the opposition. Therefore sports are a good outlet for this aggressive, yet potentially disciplined energy.

Mars Square Saturn ~ Jan 21 & Oct 27 2019
Mars Opposite Saturn ~ Jun 14 2019

Martial arts would also be a great expression of its focused endurance. Yes, this is a challenging aspect for sure, but it also has great courage and stamina. Those who work in the military will find this aspect useful in building willpower and also, to some extent, the ability to rein in their more bestial impulses. The paradox of Mars square or opposition Saturn, is that once its tendency to explode is mastered, as it can be extremely transformational and purifying.

It can also be a person who actually is able to tame wild behaviour, because of its very authoritarian energy. Mars square or opposition Saturn has the power of a steam roller. It make take a while to get moving, but once active will flatten all opposition to a pulp. When it has to it, this aspect goes in hard and fast. Mars/Saturn will then be ruthless and relentless until the bitter end.

“The Mars/Saturn person often finds it difficult to get angry, difficult to assert themselves, to go for what they want, without going too far. Like Mars/Pluto, Mars/Saturn can suffer great rage that they don’t know what to do with….once aroused Mars/Saturn can fly into the most terrific rages. It’s as if all the expressed hurts, angers and irritations get saved up.” [1] In the end Mars/Saturn will erupt and only explode when they find it really safe to do so, like a controlled demolition. Sometimes they will deliberately target a weaker individual or group guaranteed to never hit back.

Volcanic Executions

Mars square opposite saturnIt is very easy for Mars/Saturn to pick on a scapegoat to whom they can dump all their hangups onto. On the other hand, the native can put up with abuse for a very, very long time before they defend them self.

Saturn delays retaliation, so it is often the case that it will be a very tiny straw that finally breaks the camel’s back. To observers, the colossal response of Mars/Saturn’s revenge seems totally out of proportion to the provocation.

However, deeply hidden will be the teasing, undermining and vampiric behaviour from the provocateur that will have been going on for some years. It gets to the point that either the Mars/Saturn native commits suicide or lashes out spectacularly. Survival instincts kick in very strongly with this aspect and the results are never pretty.

Mars is also sex and passion, so Saturn here can suppress that too. The result is often very steamy, like the workings of a pressure cooker. Push Mars down with any force and of course it is going to be explosive the moment it releases itself. The natives will either super-sex-charged or celibate. Sadomasochism was made for Mars/Saturn people, as was the corset! If this aspect was a style of dress it would be Steam Punk, a kind of futuristic yet prim Victorian.

At worst, in the most repressive cases, depression and anger becomes self-harm. Sometimes, the native experiences bullying as a child or even sexual abuse. Authority figures are both feared and admired. There can be great hero worship where the natives own sense of disempowerment is projected onto another who seems to have all the courage and ‘Alpha’ energy they themselves lack.

Mars/Saturn ~ Hard Aspects

Mars Square Saturn

Mars square SaturnAdolf Hitler. The first three characters on the list below are almost too predictable in their maleficence. What hasn’t been written concerning Hitler’s evilness? Here we shall look at some good examples of Mars square Saturn working in Hitler’s life. The book ‘Mein Kampf’ (wrote while Hitler was in Saturnian jail.) made him the biggest selling author of the 20th century.

People seem to love to read Hitler’s ‘hate speech’. Re-released in 2016 in Germany after being banned (since 1945.) makes ‘Mein Kampf’ taboo and ‘forbidden fruit’.

“However, the book that is currently topping the German bestseller lists is far different from Hitler’s original version. The new 2,000-page edition is heavily annotated with remarks by experts to help put Hitler’s comments into context. The publishers think that this solution exposes Hitler’s destructive and violent ideology.” ~ Wiki.

 But this goes to show how the more you suppress Mars/Saturn the more extreme the reaction to it when its power is released. After Hitler’s younger brother died in 1900 he “changed from a confident, outgoing, conscientious student to a morose, detached boy who constantly fought with his father and teachers.”

In adult life though, Hitler was renown for his self-discipline. One of his soldiers commented “And he mortifies that body in a way that would shock people like us! He doesn’t drink, he practically only eats vegetables, and he doesn’t touch women.” No wonder that when the Nazis seized power in 1933, “seductive poisons” were immediately outlawed.” The Guardian.

However a new book ‘Blitzed’ paints the complete opposite picture. Hitler became dependant on his doctor Morell to prescribe him “Eukodal, a designer opiate and close cousin of heroin whose chief characteristic was its potential to induce a euphoric state in the patient (today it is known as oxycodone). It wasn’t long before Hitler was receiving injections of Eukodal several times a day. Eventually he would combine it with twice daily doses of the high grade cocaine.”  ~ The Guardian. This is a good example of the all or nothing passion of Mars square Saturn. You have to wonder if Hitler was ‘bombed out’ while making his impassioned speeches. The contrast between Hitler’s podium performances and reserved social behaviour is quite marked.

Marquis De Sade, Nero, Josef Mengele, J.P Morgan, The EU, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Saint Thérèse de Lisieux, Charlie Chaplin, River Phoenix, Susan Sarandon, Rufus Sewell, Harvey Keitel, Annette Bening, James Gandolfini, Stephen Fry, Chris Morris, Johanna Sebastian Bach, Igor Stravinsky, Margot Fonteyn, Liberace, Bill Haley, Barry White, Nicki Minaj, Ella Fitzgerald, Louis Armstrong, Antonio Salieri, Karl Lagerfeld, Claudia Schiffer, Emma McPherson, Condoleezza Rice, Dan Brown, Ernest Hemingway, T.E Lawrence, Auguste Rodin, Claude Monet, Amedeo Modigliani.

Mars Opposition Saturn

Mars opposite SaturnOliver Cromwell was an English military and political leader of the 17th century. Cromwell became a Puritan after religious conversion. Michael ‘O Siochru says “Cromwell was no monster, but he did commit monstrous acts.” in his book entitled ‘Gods Executioner’.

Mars rules iron and most paintings of Cromwell have him suited in armor (his Saturn shield). Cromwell was also nicknamed ‘Old Ironsides.’ History sees Cromwell as a highly controversial figure depending on whether you are a Catholic or Protestant. On the one hand, wiki says Cromwell is a ‘regicidal dictator’ while on the other ‘a hero of liberty’.

But in 2002 ‘Lord Protector of the Common-wealth’ made it into the top 10 Britain’s of all time.This was for leading the English civil war against King Charles I which brought a more democratic form of government to the UK. In 1649 after the Irish campaign. Cromwell writes: “I am persuaded that this is a righteous judgment of God upon these barbarous wretches, who have imbrued their hands in so much innocent blood and that it will tend to prevent the effusion of blood for the future….”

Cromwell today is mainly seen as an anti-monarchist and continues to be a divisive figure, reflective of his Mars opposition Saturn. In 1890 the Irish Nationalist Party voted against public funding for a Cromwell statue outside parliament, while King George V vetoed Winston Churchill’s request to have a battleship named after him.

Hermann Goering, Aldous Huxley, George Clooney, Robert Downey Jr, Jean Claude Van Damme, Sarah Jessica Parker, Kenneth Branagh, Julianne Moore, Farrah Fawcett, Lana Turner, James Coburn, Brooke Shields, Daryl Hannah, Mike Myers, Richard Pryor, Dan Howell, Paula Yates, Richard Strauss, Dmitri Shostakovich, Jeff Buckley, Steve Marriott, Ariana Grande, Rod Stewart, Trent Reznor, Robert Smith, Bill Wyman, Lolo Ferrari, Teresa Of Avila, Marie Stopes, John F. Kennedy Jr, Diego Maradona, Seve Ballesteros, 1999 Izmit Earthquake, Alois Alzheimer, Liz Taylor/Richard Burton Davison.

1. Aspects in Astrology. Sue Tompkins. p.202

11 thoughts on “Mars Square/Opposite Saturn ~ Execution

  1. I have Mars Squar Saturn and didnt know till now, that Hitler had the same. This is really hard and its difficult not to feel bad about it. But its true, I have a lot of anger in me. But I try to deal with it and become better. This january I began with meditation and I think it really works for me. In my horoscope for 2019 on I have read, that this year will be a good one for working on myself. So I hope I will get better in dealing with my anger!


  2. I have Mars Opposition Saturn(Scorpio Mars, Taurus Saturn). Saturn in House V and VI and Scorpio in House XI and XII.

    What does this mean, I see myself as a powerhouse whom of which wont stop until I win or die.

    I want to know what it means within the two signs specifically.

  3. Geocentrically, I have Mars in Cancer in the 2nd house in 6 minute approaching opposition to Saturn in Capricorn in the 8th House. This is part of three geometric patterns: a loose separating T-square with Moon (where both planets aspect the Moon near equally, close to 7 1/2 degrees); as one of the oppositions in a hard (octile) rectangle; and as the center pole (backbone) of an extraordinarily strong black kite (all the octile aspects (Saturn-Chiron, Venus-Saturn, Venus-Mars, and Mars-Chiron) are separating but manifesting less than 12 minutes in separation; the square aspect (Venus-Chiron) yields less than 20 minutes in separation; all five of these aspects are reinforced in hard aspects when the heliocentric chart is taken into consideration). In the declinations (latitudinal view), Mars and Saturn are contra-parallel (56 minutes apart).

    Heliocentrically, viewing longitudinally, I have Mars in Gemini in the 12th House in a 37 minute approaching sesquiquadrate to Saturn in Capricorn in the 8th House. It is part of a hard (octile) triangle with Saturn and Pluto constituting the other sesquiquadrate (2 degrees 53′) leg and Pluto and Mars at the square base at 3 degrees 30′: all three aspects are approaching. This pattern is connected up flush with a T-square where squared Pluto and Mars aspect is shared, Pluto and Chiron are in an approaching 5 degree 39′ opposition, and Mars and Chiron in a separating 2 degree 9′ square. Viewing latitudinally, Mars is at 0.25’46” N and Saturn is at 0.13’7″ N and therefore 13′ apart – well within the range of being parallel. Furthermore, Mars and Saturn are parallel to the Earth-Moon complex.

    To be detached in analysis, it seems to me the possibility of integrating the two planets’ energies is quite remote when taking into consideration their contextual positioning as detailed above. The results on me, on my life, cannot be overemphasized. I married late in life. The composite chart makes clear it is a Plutonian relationship in the most strongest terms Chiron in the 12th House and Pluto in the 7th House in a 1 degree 3′ opposition – the former 56′ away from the Ascendant and the latter 7 minutes away from the Descendant. A very harmful thing occurred to me early in our union. It shattered trust into small crystals of glass and to put Humpty Dumpty back together again has been well nigh impossible. Taping large pieces of mirror back together is conceivable, but lack of honesty assures the wallowing of the past in pools of degenerative poison where the smallest pieces are imperceptible granules, but nevertheless cuts to infinity (or so it seems) and draws blood in draining floods. Having Mars and Saturn in my nature as I do is indeed unimaginably combustible. With a few spectacular short-lived explosions in my life, I have been able to keep the seemingly near impenetrable lid on successfully. The trigger snapped commencing a soul reverberating quake – the nuclear fuse was lit – that blew the unfathomably thick cover off tout suit. I became and continue to be the volcano, uncontrollably spewing hot molten lava onto myself and those closest to me. They are buried underneath the anger – forever severed – strangers. My image and my perceptions of others have been irrevocably transformed. Redemptive change, as it is, must come from within: from human viewing mirror to stewing to an embrace of phoenix deriving, imbuing diamonds forged by fire, spread throughout the sky: heaven’s shelf of the self. And from a long inevitably contorted road of acceptance of such, meanness can become meaning, and, thus, yield to healing – of forgiveness sublimely lived.

    1. Hope you soon heal! Are you finding your ability to express yourself so poetically helpful in this? I have mars in cancer square Saturn in Libra and find it hard to assert myself.

  4. Mars square Saturn person vs mars opposite Saturn person
    who will be win?
    Mars combust and conjunction with north node fo square person.

  5. Mars opposed Saturn Kathy Griffin beheaded the US President Sag (religious tones) Gemini (media).

  6. I love my Saturn Mars square. Saturn in Scorpio, Mars in Leo – it gives me physical strength which has been invaluable as a single Mum, for teaching yoga, for teaching teenagers – I once had to chase a sneaky little bugger who had slid out of school on the pretext of getting a drink of water while in class and rugby tackle him to get him back in! I felt sorry for his Mum who had scrimped and saved to get him into college to resit his exams! I have laid a wooden door with my own fair hands and I am ever practical when my Leo Mars sees an object of desire out of its pocket – I often work out how to recreate the object. My Saturn Mars doesn’t accept defeat easily. it is a great tool to have. Stamina and staying power.
    Re The Donald – its worth a look at his prog. chart since his Sun is now in Virgo – to be of service and conjunct Regulus. To be of service and champion the lower ranks? Anyway, it suggests a change in style. New territory. His pr Mars and Venus are in Libra and transiting Saturn will make nice textiles to a little natal stellium in Libra and pr planets in Libra while it goes retro. IMO tr Jupiter is protecting him and approaches his pr asc in Libra – Putin has good synastry there. Its time to move on people! I watched your video on the Inauguration, Marina – most interesting! Funny what you said about the Hollywood caste! Why do these over privileged pretenders – people who pretend to be others for a living, people who can cry to command at the word Action, assume the high moral ground over Trump? Or even ANY ground over him? Charlie Sheen… really??
    A small tip for you Ancient8 – don’t forget with al your Virgo, Neptune is delivering a tide of other people’s imagination your way! Just put your suit of armour on an don’t make eye contact with it! Choose something nice to focus on instead and stay away from public gatherings on the 20th.

    1. WoW! Wish I had that. I have Mars square my ascendent thats conjunct Neptune, and a 12 house stellium.

  7. I don’t know what’s going on for me, but this week is off to a very creepy and bad start.
    I am in DC and a very excited for Inauguration Day.
    But I am also worried about protests going wild with crazies.
    This article makes me worry more.
    In my own personal life, I am Cap Sun, Sag Rising.
    Today all of my web servers have been hacked and no one can fix it yet.
    Plus my long term SO (Triple Virgo) acted rude and weird and is behaving badly all of sudden.
    Any insight would be appreciated ! Love your work!

    1. Oh cripes! I kind of forgot this was happening before inauguration day. But we have to look at the positives.

      “It can also be a person who actually is able to tame wild behaviour, because of its very authoritarian energy. Mars square or opposition Saturn has the power of a steam roller. It make take a while to get moving, but once active will flatten all opposition to a pulp”

      I deliberately chose a provocative picture because I’m sure Hilerites will see Trump as the monster, while Trumpets see the opposite. If Trump is not controlled opposition then this is a really dangerous time for him no question. I still am not sure about him. His Gemini Sun keeps us guessing! But I’m pretty sure he is no executioner in the war sense. Certainly heads will roll if Trump truly has any integrity. They have to, if he really wants to drain the swamp.
      The monsters, as far as I’m concerned, are the pedophiles.
      COURAGE & STAMINA are needed and that’s what this aspect is to the core.

  8. I have the square in my natal chart from mars in scorpio to saturn in aquarius. On top of that pluto makes a conjunction to mars too. All within less than two degrees of orb.
    I used to lash out and throw tantrums a lot when i was a kid. Also i had to put up with some bullying too which i think made my anger build up like a volcano until it exploded, my parents said that i was almost like a different person when i raged. Even before i knew about astrology i’ve realized that behaviour was equal to shooting oneself in the foot so i’ve made it paramount to throw that energy away on doing something productive, excercize, karate, playing music, singing and now meditation and breathwork too, also to constantly assert myself [being kind of an arse sometimes] as long as it’s effective and serve my motives. The constant push pull in the psyche in the long run seemed to produce much more energy to work with also enough of a thick skin to assume a challenge, although i have to admit that my close relationships suffer constantly because of the way i behave sometimes, having a sense of humor and not to take oneself that seriously helps sometimes.
    Also i have other aspects going on that take away the weight of this aspect somewhat. But overall, yeah, it’s a challenging aspect to have, it makes me pretty frustrated and by consequence, restless.
    As far the list goes, Hitler, Mengele, Sade, Nero, haha, you have your evil’s team right there. Although having read some of Sade’s writings, his work and thoughts stand on it’s own merits as great imo. Not that i condone nor promote his allegedly more sadistic and abusive actions in any kind of circumstance anyway.

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