The Three Liliths

Lilith in astrology incorporates three entities. We have Black Moon Lilith, Asteroid Lilith and the lesser known Dark Moon Lilith. Together they work as a Triple Moon Goddess, which describes a process of transformation. The three Lilith’s are also useful in pinpointing which brand of Lilith energy is strongest in your chart and at which stage you may have the most issues with.

After studying Eris in detail it is apparent to me that she is the higher octave of Lilith. Eris is the Uber-Dark Goddess and by combining her with the outer planets we can see how each corresponds quite neatly with three phases of the moon.

To see the Lilith astrology archetype in terms as a triple goddess makes total sense to me. After I wrote this post I discovered Demetria George had come up with a similar concept about Lilith. Comparing it to the bible story she says:

” The Asteroid Lilith describes the first stage in the mythical journey where she is suppressed, humiliated and flees in a fiery rage to the desolate wilderness. The Dark Moon Lilith depicts the pain of her exile where she plots and executes revenge. The Black Moon Lilith shows how she transmutes her distorted image back into its natural healthy expression” [1]

Asteroid Lilith

triple-goddessCRESCENT MOON. 1181 on The Maiden (Puberty & Virginity), Colour White.

ORBIT. She is the only solid representation of Lilith found in the main asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter. Takes 4 years to orbit the Sun. Discovered in 1927. Diameter of 67km.

KEY WORDS. Rebellion, feminist, prostitution, exile, freedom fighter, confrontational, equality, impulsive, innovative, unconventional, asexual, instinctual, hands-on healing.

She is hands on with her energy as represented by the hand like glyph. Earthy and practical, she reflects the part of the creation myth where she protests to God about having the “lay beneath” Adam and not being treated as his equal.

Asteroid Lilith is like URANUS/ERIS. Uranus having been castrated makes him asexual, he is often sited as being the “gay” planet which is suggestive of alternative lifestyles. The fact that he was castrated by Cronus (Saturn) is interesting. Another symbol of patriarchy whipping off power from this eccentric, ball breaker!

Asteroid Lilith Feature.

Black Moon Lilith

FULL MOON. Comprising True (Osculating) Lilith. h13 on & Mean Lilith from their regular drop down menu. The Mother (Creativity & Sexuality), Colour Red.

ORBIT. It has a 9 year orbit and interestingly spends 9 months in each sign. Very apt for the Full Moon phase. This describes beautifully the gestation of Osculating Lilith to Mean Lilith in the corridor. The corridor being the womb.

KEY WORDS. Magic, animal magnetism, kundalini, creative force, tantric sex, seduction, intuition, psychic ability, imagination, poetry, psychic healing, hypnotism, charisma, glamour, shamanism, mushrooms, psychedelic drugs.

This is not a solid object, it is a point of alignment. The Black Moon is the apogee of the Moons orbit, the point that is farthest from the earth. Just as points like the North Node and the Vertex are hugely important, so is the lunar apogee.

Black Moon Lilith orbitJust as there is a Lunar mean and true Node, so there is a Mean and True (osculating) Lilith. As I have found True Lilith to have just as strong an influence as Mean Lilith. Together they form according to Lilith expert Kelly Hunter, a Black Moon Corridor. True Lilith has a wildly vacillating orbit and demonstrates the same quality as an anaretic Planet; potent, fermenting, on the verge of changing. Mean Lilith is more like a fermented refined and stable magic.

Black Moon Lilith is like NEPTUNE/ERIS. This part of the Lilith myth corresponds to the forbidden fruit episode, where Lilith comes back as a serpent. The serpent represents occult knowledge, while the apple representing sex or enthogens. Neptune is very much like a psychic sponge. The zone has shamanic qualities, a similar effect to using drugs to break down the barriers to the unconscious. Like deceptive Neptune when drugged, this zone can let in the demons as well as messages from the spirits.

Black Moon Lilith feature.

Dark Moon Lilith

NEW MOON. Also known as Waldemath Moon. h58 on Menopause & The Shadow). Colour Black.

ORBIT. It flies through the chart, like a witch on it’s broomstick taking 119 days to travel round the earth spending 10 days in one sign. Sighting of this mysterious 2nd Moon goes back as far as 1618. it is supposed to resemble a sphere shaped dust cloud. In 1918, Astrologer Sepharial claimed to have confirmed the existence of Waldemath’s ‘ghost moon’.

KEY WORDS. Vengeance, Sadomasochism, Demons, The Shadow, Rage, Anti-mother, Fairytales, Nightmares, Ghosts, Nymphomania, Gremlins, Psycho, Toxins, Depth psychology, Stalkers, emotional pain, Catharsis, Madness.

The Dark Moon is the hurt, nasty side of Lilith, and very much like Algol the notorious Fixed star. It can be channeled beneficially if used without ego to release negativity through creativity or art therapy. It is the part of the Lilith myth where in exile she turned baby killer out of revenge to god. “Dark Moon relates to highly individualized soul desires that are denied personal satisfaction for higher expression on social/spiritual levels.”Kelley Hunter.

Dark Moon Lilith is like PLUTO/ERIS. The shadow and demons are very much part of Pluto’s underworld, generally he is thought to have raped and abducted Persephone (Eris), but in other versions Persephone goes willingly. Dark Moon then can work two ways like the myth, we either face our Demons and release them safely or we bury them. If they are allowed to fester they become enraged, then we risk them breaking out and psychically “raping” us.

Dark Moon Lilith Feature.

The 3 Liliths In Your Horoscope

Create your chart HERE. It will take you to a page that shows says free Horoscopes at Astrodienst.
Scroll down to right at the very bottom and click on “Extended Chart Selection
In “Additional objects“, select “Lilith”. This is Black Moon Lilith (Mean)
In the box for “additional asteroids or “hypothetical” planets” add 1181, h13, h58. This will show asteroid Lilith, Black Moon Lilith (True/Osculating) and Dark Moon Lilith in that order.

1. Finding our Way through the Dark. Demetra George. pg 92.

168 thoughts on “The Three Liliths

  • September 23, 2010 at 5:49 am

    Fantastic article Marina. I looking up all my Lilith points. Wow. My halloween zone has no planets there. So, I guess, like you said it is the black hole feeling. the black moon points Lilith(osc Lilith) at 12 cap and the regular one from the pull up menu at 6 cap. But I do have mercury at 4 cap and my vertex at 17 and moon at 18 cap all in the 5th house of course. Yahoooooo…..
    My asteroid Lilith is at 20 aqua in an approaching conjunction to my natal dc at 23 aqua…..Hmm wonder how that works. I guess, I am really only interested in relationships that I feel there is a true sense of equality. A balance. I hate men who act or think they are smarter then I am and act arrogant. I hate men who try to manipulate me too. Interesting huh. Kind of makes sense having that there. Dark Moon Lilith is at 3 d scorpio which falls in my 3rd house. I wonder how that manifests itself. It gives that point a much more martian or plutonian essence does’nt it?

    Thanks again for the wonderful information and research. Really interesting.
    I need to read more.


    • September 27, 2010 at 10:05 pm

      Interesting! My Mean and True Lilith are on your DC as is my Mars.
      You have Asteroid Lilith on your DC and my sister has Mean Lilith on her DC.
      I wonder about Liliths on the DC, because I think they manifest more in the partners than yourself. You describe a preference for Lilith friendly men. But is that what you attract?
      I don’t see my sister as very Lilithy, in the sense she is not very dark or spikey. She gives the impression of wholesome, bright, Venusian beauty, even quite traditional. She’s certainly not the black sheep of the family (Id say that was me!) BUT she does attract younger Lilith men who are very modern and content to let her wear the trousers I think. She’s not housewifey to them and they end up doing all the cooking!
      Lilith on an angle IS strong however, so she has had very Lilith themes in her life, but they are not obvious at all. Is that true for you? If they were on the AC they would be.
      But then you have Mean Lilith strong as it’s conjunct Mercury a personal planet, so you will speak out even if it makes you unpopular. Its quite a psychic connection too.
      I wouldnt say you had a black hole corridor just coz its empty. At 6 degs wide chances are it wouldnt capture many planets. Its IS almost at black Hole proportions though because of the size. 6 degs is still quite small. I call it a Black hole if it 5 or under.

      Your Dark Moon in the 3rd makes it mercurial, I don’t use the signs, but Dark Moon is definitely the most Plutonian of the Liliths anyhow. As you have Mean Lilith conjunct Mercury as well as dark Moon in the 3rd, I would think you could express your Lilith energy very well in writing.

  • September 27, 2010 at 9:15 am

    I loved your artcles and they have helped me to understand a few things. I would love a Lilith reading.

    Brilliant research!

  • September 27, 2010 at 10:20 pm

    Thanks Revy, Natalie, Anne-Louise and Michelle. I wrote this article a while back , but it got lost in our old blog set up. It’s wonderful to get such great feedback since I aired it once more. It’s funny because I re-read it and thought, “Blimey, did I write that?!” I don’t think it was me, it was LILITH!
    Whenever I write about her it feels like I’m channeling.

  • October 5, 2010 at 6:34 am

    hey, haven’t read all comments, so please excuse if it’s been mentioned. i wondered if you’ve ever read barbara black koltuv’s “book of lilith.” some of the text feels like meaningful conjecture, and, mind you, i have no issue with conjecture of the thoughtful, penetrating sort. there are a lot of quotes from the zohar and relatable hebrew scripts and ancient middle eastern mythological/historical documents and artifacts. some of the passages quoting these sources on lilith are nothing short of stunning, on a comparative level and on their own. the collectively experienced power/terror of lilith are explored deeply in her book. i have so much else to say, but, you know, don’t want to go on and on.

    • October 14, 2010 at 6:28 am

      Hi Michelle,
      No I havent read this book, and not heard of it till now, so thankyou! Another one to put on my reading list.
      There is so much to say about Lilith, But its a weird thing that no matter how many times she is discussed it just raises more questions, or you just can’t pin her down. The thread “Is Lilith where disaster lies?” on is still going strong at 55 pages. I have to catch up on that one.

  • December 24, 2010 at 5:05 pm

    Hi Marina!

    I don´t understood everything….

    What means than:

    Lilith(osc.) Aries, House 3/4 ?


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