Moon Conjunct/Quincunx Saturn ~ Responsibility

Moon conjunct or quincunx Saturn breeds extremely disciplined, organised and responsible individuals. They may have had to grow up very quickly due to the loss (Mentally or physically) of one of their parents. Those very young, developing shoulders would have had to take on heavy, grown-up burdens of which they were barely able to carry. By the time Moon conjunct Saturn subjects are fully-fledged adults however, they will have developed a backbone of steel and broad, sturdy metaphorical shoulders. Even if they actually are built like a brick shithouse, this sort of body is not one that easily adapts to new circumstances.

Moon conjunct Saturn is generally not fluid, dainty or light, unless other factors in the chart modify this. “Often the mother is on her own, perhaps weighted down with responsibilities, often working all day, seldom any spare time. Usually the child becomes extremely sensitive to her needs and learns how to react accordingly. The ramifications of this are that in childhood, the individual finds it very difficult to react and respond in a spontaneous kind of way because there is a constant, very often barely conscious, expectation of criticism” [1]

Armoured Protection

Most of all Moon conjunct or quincunx Saturn then is functional and critical. They are not always your most adventurous or playful friend, but they will be your rock and anchor. It is extremely tempting to let Moon conjunct Saturn take complete control of your life, but if you do surrender to their efficiency drive, expect their command to be 100%. They provide protection and security like no other. However, if this person happens to be your romantic partner and there is synastry with this Saturn/Moon, the relationship will often feel too parental for comfort.

With age however, these folk mellow and begin to act more like teenagers. This is when Saturn become the devilish horny goat. Their life may often turn right around like the Roman rite of Saturnalia, where masters played the roles of slaves and vice versa. After a lifetime of being Mr or Mrs Sensible then, Moon conjunct Saturn realise they have earned the right to break all their rules.

Moon conjunct Saturn can therefore become charmingly eccentric after the age of 55. Women especially bloom post-menopause and/or after their kids have left home, leaving them to pursue all they dreams they had as teenagers. Watch out for randy goat men at this age too…they may abduct the maid, jump on a Harley and go find themselves in Bali.

Moon quincunx Saturn is the quintessential barmy headmistress or master. They command respect because they carry a rock-solid air of authority and a stoic approach to life. What the quincunx adds to this aspect is a sense of humour and an unusual approach to problem-solving. Moon quincunx Saturn may seem to take the traditional approach to management, but they have the knack of throwing a curve ball into situations which throw people sideways.

Their employees/children quickly adjust themselves when Moon quincunx Saturn gives them a beaming smile combined with a “you will obey” stare. These folk have a great technical ability, they are natural scientists and methodical in every thing they do. This is an unexpectedly creative combination because Saturn crystallises the Moon’s imagination through the adjusting and juxtaposing energy of the quincunx. It had a very sculptural feel about it, intuition forms matter.

Moon/Saturn ~ (In*)Conjunct Aspects

Moon Conjunct Saturn


Jimmy Hoffa
(01’) was a trade union activist who also mysteriously disappeared. His body was never found. The young Hoffa lost his father aged 7, and began full-time manual work to support his family at age 14. In the 1950’s Hoffa became the national Vice president of the IBT which became the largest single trade union in the USA. He had a major role in its development and success.

However Hoffa also became involved in organised crime in parallel with his activist work so the darker side of Saturn came out towards his later years when I guess we could say he became more irresponsible. He was imprisoned in 1967 for attempted bribery and fraud. Hoffa only served 5 years of his sentence. President Nixon still banned him from Union activities upon his release. Hoffa disappeared in July 1975, his mob connections are thought to be responsible for his death. But his body has never been found and the case remains a mystery.

More Moon conjunct Saturn: George Clooney, Joan Crawford, Liza Minneli, Sheena Easton, Sophia Loren, Herb Alpert, Peter Sutcliffe, Lucky Luciano, Alios Alzheimer, Bob Dylan, Chris Evert. 

Moon Quincunx Saturn


Moon Quincunx SaturnErin Brockovich
(07’) former shop-assistant and beauty-pageant winner turned legal clerk. Despite lacking a law school education she was instrumental in bringing litigation against Pacific Gas and Electric for contaminating water supplies. The 2000 film “Erin Brochovich” starring Julia Roberts, tells Erin’s rags-to-riches rise towards being an activist and educator. Erin continues to fight on behalf of the people (Moon) in her participation with other lawsuits against big corporations. (Saturn).

Moon/Saturn can be about health problems too. As a single mother Erin had to badger people to help with childcare while she worked long hours constructing her case against PG & E. Her dogged Saturn determination reaped rewards in the end. Erin’s book ‘Take It From Me: Life’s a Struggle But You Can Win’ is a best seller. The productive,  creative struggle of Moon quincunx Saturn is described nicely in this book title.

More Moon quincunx Saturn: Leonardo Di Vinci, Pablo Picasso, J D Rockefeller, Jay Rockefeller, Lyndon B Johnson, Gertrude Stein, Burt Reynolds, George Peppard, Helen Mirren, Jackie Chan, Liv Tyler, Willie Nelson, Jerry Hall, Mark Knofler, Mike Barson, Steve Nicks, Bobby Brown.

Moon Saturn Aspects

 Moon conjunct/quincunx Saturn • Moon square/opposite Saturn Moon trine Saturn

1. Aspects In Astrology. Sue Tompkins. Pg 123
*The Inconjunct is another word for the quincunx. In traditional astrology, nether the conjunction or the quincunx are technically ‘aspects’ because the planets are too close in distance to ‘see’ the other. The conjunction functions as a blind spot, while the quincunx works as an adjustment. They share the ‘blindness’, so that is why I have grouped them together. Aspectare is Latin for ‘To observe’, or look at attentively.

23 thoughts on “Moon Conjunct/Quincunx Saturn ~ Responsibility

  1. Conj. Moon 5th H./Saturn 6th H.

    Due to my sister´s illness (heart congenital one) and my mother being an orphan (irresponsible, for she was the favorite of her eldest responsible bros and sis´s), I felt real weight as a child. My many brothers were on football and playing with toy rifles, so I grew on my own, mainly. My father was working to attain the so many needs and was violent, anyways…

    My bros really hated me when I said what was next.

    My ex-husband did not follow my command and now he´s living his 7th bankruptcy…

    And peers also. I bring ideas. They keep them. They say they are not interested and one year later, they come with acts based on those ideas, though never give any recognition. They kind of fear me.

    I am rude somehow, though right.

    I understand myself better now! (56).

    Projects seem to be going quite well… (sure).

    Thanks Marina!

  2. When I was reading through this I was thinking that it portrays me to perfection. Spot on, I thought. But then I realized my moon actually OPPOSES my saturn ( moon in libra in the 8th-saturn in second in Aries.)

    How can this be?

    1. Hi Claudiacv, There is not much difference between the interpretations of soft or hard aspects. The opposition, square and conjunction are all similar except I think the opposition is more likely to project one end of it. The conjunction may not be able to see itself. It depends what star you Saturn is on, it may overpower the Moon here being in Aries and the 2nd is a slightly stronger house too.

  3. I dated a guy with this aspect shortly. He stood me up for our second date, so tomorrow I yelled at him over the phone “I’m really mad for last night!” (that was it, my bursts of anger are very short; Aries Moon), he said “Ok..fine..you don’t have to criticize me right away!”. I thought – wtf?! – I didn’t criticize him at all, but that just popped out from his unconscious.
    He was also a total control freak, so when after our first sex he literally carried me to the bathroom because “it’s now shower time” and started making schedules and timetables out loud I was in total shock. To me, it really felt sick.
    In public, however, he was a perfect gentleman (the conjunction is in Libra) because “I like what I care about (=that was me lol) totally secured and taken care of”.
    We broke up after several dates and after barely 6 months he married a girl who is twenty (he is 33), still in school and probably needs him to manage her life.

  4. I know/knew 2 w/ Sat/M/con my roommate in college, who if there was a contest, she was in it, valedictorian, 1st runner up teen, state, champ, later coral director international winner, many hated her, accomplished, beauty, crying gags over slights, (cancer/sun) that I saw, ups and downs….she was never left to stew =in=her=own=juice for long, always hatching a plan to catch the eye of some one really important, the music department head, a magazine contest…., wonderful contralto, married a really funny man, brain surgery for tumor @ 1st sat/return recovered fully.
    Also my dear alcoholic bro-in-law along w/libra sun. His 2 children never spoke above whispers, his beautiful mom was left for an ugly mistress, (his dad and he actually look like prince Charles) 5 sibs….no pity here as he leaves a trail of corruption and is often left to stew, arthritic knees since 1st sat return

  5. Well at least we have some interesting company…and Dylan was not adventurous or fun? I have often wondered what it would feel like to have a moon freed from the hip of Saturn. My combo is in Sag and my mother is a Sag who is very Saturnian, and yes, was overwhelmed, overworked etc. and in many ways was the father of the family. Poor little moon. On top of it all this is in the 4th H. Interestingly enough my borther has Capricorn on the cusp of the 4th and always says our mother never was a child – had no idea of how to let children be children.

  6. What I have read here and there is that conj. makes us able to manage for good (to thrive into a trine, for the next life, say I) or bad (to descend into harsher aspects, say I).

    Conj. is being right in the middle.

    R.

    1. A psychic who used astrology told me that this combo is able to manifest what we need. Be careful what one wishes for?

  7. I read this this morning and realized it is spot on. Father dies early, drawn out trauma, mother strong, fragile alone. I deal with suitors stealing dads money and trying for my mom, evil relatives, on and on.
    Funny I am unemployed right now due to the relaxing economic recovery(sarcasm/on!)in the USA and yet I tend to be rigourous in my discipline still berating myself for not studying ect. and going to gym.
    Oh by the way. Vlad is October 7th but you know that.

  8. Spot on! I have this in Capricorn, just for added jollity, with a Cancer sun. I am 54 and am unshackeling so much baggage and responsibility from the past. No pierced nipples yet but anything is possible!!

    1. LOL-I know I have this wicked sense of humor these days and one has to be careful with the natives ….
      Nothing wrong with pierced nipples.
      Cheers!

  9. my dad has this 18 degrees gemini (moon conjunct saturn). I have saturn also at 18 degrees saturn but exactly opposite moon at 18 degrees Sag. Certainly not a light hearted family

    1. Along with the house position, it would be interesting to see how this conjunction (or opposition) plays out in the different signs. It says a lot about how involved the mother/natal mothering is. Regardless of their sign, there is this sense of their being overburdened, overwhelmed, strict perhaps. So many ways this plays out. What Saturn touches is what is craved.

  10. For those who have an interest in the archetypal, myth, astrology, psychology, and/or James Bond. From the Atlantic monthly – “I, Ian Flemming give you a hero almost without psychology…driven by a mechanical imperative called “duty” [to M]. In Jungian-alchemical terms, 007 is like lead, the metal associated with the dark god Saturn, lying coldly at the bottom of the crucible and refusing transformation. Boil him, slash him, poison him, flog him with a carpet beater and shoot his woman – Bond will not be altered.” OK then…further proof that Saturn’s goal is to remain rock steady, changing (usually by severing or paring) for re-incorporation and never spiritual re-birth. Maybe 007 is MoonSaturn? Especially since he only answers to M (mother).

  11. In a wide angle, this is true for me. Part of the efforts I´m trying to do, is this reinvention to materialize my dreams, after being so many things that were nice for me… all those roles I played through life.

    Now, my children are Young adults and I´m trying to be… more me, so to say.

    Thanks!

    Comming again, is to redescover me, somehow.

    R.

    1. every time i am in a corner, i check my bearings from here… i am that single mom with the incredibly Noble son…but i was home and was available … my career took me away and i brought them with me… until they were in the 4th grade, then i stuck around and did the work from another angle, i developed my private practice and closed the door at 4pm. Yes he took care of his baby sister she was 10 yrs younger and he thought she was pretty funny
      I have to confess i escaped some weekend mornings for coffee with a neighbor , i found it important that he grow up with skill for caring for a child…we all learned with our siblings and babysitting… maybe he felt over burdened, and yes maybe he did it so willingly for my sake, he is that kid… he is broad shouldered and strong beyond measure and sensitive as a gardenia that bruises when touched, he feels but refuses to feel…his nemesis was a woman when he was barely 18…they lasted 6 years thru her emotional blackmail…he protected and defended her till we no longer spoke much…then she cheated and he was destroyed… i wanted to literally kill her…i fantasized her being dragged under the tram…how dare she hurt the coolest young man i have ever known… this is the child that carved animals for hundreds of children all over the African continent telling them they were filled with magic and would keep them connected… he drummed with the elders in the circle when he was 5 and received the Tao from a Chinese Taoist priest and spoke fluent Chinese when asked to repeat the prayers…all were astonished. now he is in such a dark place i am scared to death

  12. Yeah, and try all that in Pisces opposite Uranus/Pluto conjunct in Virgo. Yeah, it’s been fun (not). I am most certainly Not disciplined, never have been, but I can assure you I am not grown up. Hahahahaha

  13. I have this aspect as does my son also. My childhood was marked by deep grief and responsibility. My mother was loving and affectionate but was emotionally unavailable for many years while she had an affair. I was deeply lonely at this time but always strived to protect and defend her.
    My own son was only four when his father committed suicide. Although I tried my hardest to hide my grief and sorrow from him, I know that I too was likely emotionally absent for some years. I was shattered and exhausted being a single working parent just trying to put food on the table. He was a serious child after the suicide of his father. I feel he was deeply impacted but he grew into a responsible young man. I wish his childhood could have been more carefree and fun but fate had other plans.

  14. I have moon conjunct saturn in the 6th house of cancer, moon being in its own sign. childhood was rough with my father being unavailable and in a fledgling business and both my parents grappling with several illnesses before my mother committed suicide when I was 14. my relationship with my father has been strained ever since.

  15. Hey I’m Brice and I’m honestly in “awe” from reading this article I can relate to 2-3 quarters of the information provided and btw I’ve never met my dad and during my middle school years I was effected most by this emotionally but I’ve over came it. My mom Is a very hard worker and I’m always there for her literally in every way standing by her side and will continue to do so. I have a lot of great placements and aspects, I’m a Sun-Cancer, Moon-Sagittarius, and Gemini rising. Yes, I do my best to look at everything in a positive way 🙂 I hope who ever is reading this has a great day.

  16. This is all so true! My moon tightly conjuncts(2’) my Saturn and NN in the 12th and Sun (6’) also. I’m 50 and now menopausal. Uranus has been in my 12th for a long time and is on my Mars in the 12th now. Lots of transits hitting planets in my natal chart.
    But I’m thinking about adoption now as I was never able to have kids (5th house Pluto/Uranus). Maybe it’s Neptune conjunct my Venus and Mercury in Pisces in the 11th. I don’t know….
    This was so accurate!!

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