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Sun Conjunct/Quincunx Lilith

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Sun conjunct/quincunx Lilith

Sun conjunct or quincunx Lilith plays out as the ego feeling exiled from the dominant cultural system. Sometimes this is as a result of actual abuse from authority figures. The closer Lilith is to the Sun the more it may feel eclipsed. Therefore the taboo is cast over these subjects identity, to the extent that they can become demonised. These sensitive folk may fall for the forbidden fruit of drugs to numb the pain of feeling like an outcast.

Despite Sun conjunct Lilith’s counter-cultural behaviour, Black Moon subjects need more than most to feel like they belong and feel part of a family. The way they can do this successfully is to bond with nature and animals. If other planets confirm this, their sexuality will be instinctive and untamed, and they feel very comfortable in their own skin.

The subject may in their defence totally reject any solar collaboration for fear of being totally outshone. Females could refuse to marry, or have same-sex relationships. Most subjects, whatever their sex, will prefer to work for themselves.

The fiery creativity of the Sun fused with the piercing intuition of the black moon makes these subjects sexually magnetic and intense. They are closely bound to the spirit world, and can perform powerful magic for good and for ill. If exiled, these folk will create their own brand of sexuality or moral code, so in effect Sun conjunct Lilith crowns itself.

Sun quincunx Lilith creates unique and unusual ways to exorcise your demons. The quincunx shows the successful alchemical blending of seemingly incongruous elements. These self -divined people somehow get away with being respected and idolised combined with also being the taboo, exiled or demonic. Sometimes they start their life being the darling of society, repressing their eccentricity and then shockingly flip over to their more authentic selves which then exiles them.

Sun/Lilith ~ (In)* Conjunct Aspects

Sun Conjunct Lilith (Mean)

john-deeJohn Dee (06’) was most famous for being court astrologer and advisor to Elizabeth I. He was a gifted mathematician, astronomer and occultist dedicating his life to bridging the worlds of science and magic. Even though Dee was a devout Christian, he was profoundly influenced by Hermetic law, Plato and Pythagoras, believing that numbers were the root of all wisdom and all God’s creations were based on geometry and numbering. John Dee was obsessed with connecting to the spirit world because he believed it contained higher wisdom. He was unsuccessful until he collaborated with Edward Kelley a spirit medium.

Kelley’s Moon at 1º Aquarius was trine Dee’s Sun/Lilith conjunction at 29º Virgo. (And exact conjunct Dee’s Moon) Dee spoke to the angels through Kelley. Due in part to Kelley’s showmanship and fame as an alchemist, the partnership became very successful. Lilith’s tendency for triangular relationships came into effect when Kelley claimed angel Uriel had demanded that they both share Dee’s second wife Jane Fromond (who was 28 years younger that Dee.) John begrudgingly complied for a while but then broke with Kelley eventually. After Elizabeth I’s death, Dee found no support and died in poverty. “Dee is now viewed as a serious scholar and appreciated as one of the most learned men of his day. His personal library at Mortlake was the largest in the country, and was considered one of the finest in Europe.” ~ Wiki

Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe (10’) was certainly gifted and prolific as an epic poet, writer and critic. He also studied law and became a German statesman. He was chief advisor to the Grand Duke and then was knighted himself. Goethe was also fascinated by natural science. He published works on morphology and colour theory. Goethe had the largest mineral collection in Europe having 17,800 rock samples in total.

True to Goethe’s Lilithian Sun, some of his literature was very erotic for the time he lived in. He was a visionary and influenced European thought greatly “a figure in two worlds: on the one hand, devoted to the sense of taste, order, and finely crafted detail, which is the hallmark of the artistic sense of the Age of Reason and the neo-classical period of architecture; on the other, seeking a personal, intuitive, and personalized form of expression and society, firmly supporting the idea of self-regulating and organic systems.” ~ Wiki

Drew Barrymore (97’) Actress; tasted Liliths forbidden fruit from childhood, smoking aged 9, alcohol abuse and snorting coke at 13 and an attempted suicide. Uninhibited with her body, she has exposed her breasts frequently in public and on talk shows. Drew is estranged from her father. One of her most famous roles is the negative spurned Lilith in the shape of a manipulative teen seductress in Poison Ivy. Drew has defined her sexuality thus “Being with a woman is like exploring your own body, but through someone else. When I was younger I used to go with lots of women. Totally. I love it”. ~ The Guardian 

Connie Francis (104’) Singer;  suffered under her dominant Italian father and endured abuse in some of her 4 marriages and eventually had a breakdown. She was raped and beaten after a performance so she became a recluse for 7 years. Her father put her in exile once more by committing her to a mental hospital due to severe depression. Years later she had a further psychotic episode and was once again institutionalised, this time put under guardianship (Sun). She came thought it all, successfully returning to shine once more as a singer.

Steven Spielberg (73’) as a young Jewish boy often found himself an outcast and bullied by older males “In high school, I got smacked and kicked around. Two bloody noses. It was horrible.” ~ New York Times.  His blockbuster films reflect the themes of alienation. Interestingly in his family settings, the father is often absent. River Phoenix (84’) was a dedicated environmental activist and won a humanitarian award. It has been suggested that the drug abuse, which resulted in his untimely death may have been a result of suffering abuse at the hands of a religious cult to which his parents were at one time missionaries. Eve Sedgwick (38’) felt the ugly duckling within her good-looking family so she escaped into the intellectual world and made her name in “Queer studies”. She then became a self-professed “gay studies guru, who happens to be a heterosexual woman married to her fella”. Eve had both Mean & True Lilith conjunct the Sun. Also Britney Spears, Benny Anderson (Abba), Belle Boyd, Henry Winkler (The Fonz) and Uri Gellar.

Sun Conjunct Lilith (True)

Larry Csonka (02’) Former American football player and fullback who won the superbowl with the Miami dolphins in 1973 and 1974. He was successful despite being so large. He weighed 220 pounds (15 stone.) aged 16. “By the 1970s he was one of the most feared runners in professional football. Standing 6 ft 3 in …. he was one of the biggest running backs of his day and pounded through the middle of the field with relative ease, often dragging tacklers 5 -10 yards. He was described as a bulldozer or battering ram.” ~ WIKI.  Since his retirement he has become a motivational speaker. Also Gary Numan (25’), James Dean (63’), Ina May Gaskin (79’), John Dee (Also Mean), Johann Goethe, Cheiro, Erin Brockovich, Terence McKenna, M.C Escher, Lena Zavaroni, Debbie Reynolds, Wikileaks chart, Cannibals chart, Jennifer Lopez, Victoria & Albert Davison, Charles & Camila Davison.

Sun Quincunx Lilith (Mean)

sun-quincunx-lilithJoe Frazier (21′) was famed for his relentless boxing, always on the attack. He had a mystical look and a wicked left hook. Joseph Goebbels (39′) was the spin doctor for the Nazi regime, he was neurotic and fell under Hitler’s spell. Paul Newman (88′) the actor with beguiling blue eyes later became a highly successful business man giving away $150 million to charitable organizations in his lifetime. And Amy Winehouse (77′), her Back to Black album is exorcising Black Moon demons all over.

Sun Quincunx Lilith (True)

Sir Isaac Newton (31′) As well as being the astronomer who showed us how the cosmos was structured. He was also an occultist, secretly carrying out experiments in alchemy. He combined science with spirituality to understand the Universe, and predicted the end of the world in 2060! The Kray Twins (05′), brutal gangsters who ran organised crime in Londons East end, such was their charisma they actually became celebrities until they were jailed in 1969. Spike Milligan (18′) the wildly eccentric British comedian notoriously incredibly difficult to work with. Diagnosed  bi-polar. Cat Stevens (56′) musician had both Liliths quincunx the Sun, he became enlightened after nearly drowning. Later he married a Muslim, changed his name to “Islam” and gave up music in favour of his new religion. In 2004 he was denied entry to the US because he was on the countries “Watch List”.

Sun Lilith Aspects

Sun conjunct/quincunx Lilith • Sun sextile/trine Lilith
Sun square Lilith Sun opposite Lilith

* The Inconjunct is another word for the quincunx. In traditional astrology, nether the conjunction or the quincunx are technically ‘aspects’ because the planets are too close in distance to ‘see’ the other. The conjunction functions as a blind spot, while the quincunx an adjustment. They share the ‘blindness’,so that is why I have grouped them together. Aspectare is Latin for ‘To observe’, or look at attentively.
Picture ref: John Dee performing an experiment before Queen Elizabeth I. Henry Gillard Glindoni. (1852 -1913)

54 COMMENTS

  1. What do you think of Sun conjunct Lilith in Leo via synastry Marina?

    I’ve heard Lilith plays out like pluto. These 2 people’s chart also have moon square pluto double whammy. Is that what aids the intensity only or could Lilith be the cause as well.

    The woman has the Lilith placement on the man’s sun. Does he view her as the evil seductress or is it his actual Lilith placement that is viewed that way. This is what I’d like to clarify and who feels the intensity the most.

    Thanks.

  2. I just learned i have True Lilith 20° 04′ Virgo conjunct my Sun 20°07′ Virgo so from my understanding it would be cazimi. I am a female and have always had issues with my supposed role as a woman in this patriarchal society. I have never desired to get married or have children and indeed have always fared better in relationships where I have a lot of freedom to be myself. I also have the sun conjuncting Venus and Pluto, with Pluto conjuncting my ascendant. From the 12th house…. if that doesn’t add layers lol.