Black Moon Lilith is the most commonly used Lilith. Black Lilith encapsulates all three Liliths while at the same time if you want to use the other two Liliths, you can fine tune with these extra sprites and they will give you clues as to which of the three are operating most strongly. You can find out more about the Lilith trio and the Black Moon Corridor in this Triple Moon Goddess Post
Here we shall focus on Black Moon Lilith in more detail. In particularly we need to get a hold of just how the Lilith corridor works looking at the lives of the famous and the infamous. I decided to look at the Black Moon Lilith rising or featured in the 1st house. Such a strong fiery placement should push Lilith energy to the forefront of a persons life and identity. Having them conjunct Mars or the Sun would do the same.
Black Moon Celebrities
1960′s counter culture “Guru” Timothy Leary had a black hole of a Lilith corridor, only 5 degrees wide in the 1st. The midpoint of Mean & True Lilith opposed a Ceres/ Pluto conjunction (03′!). This aptly describes his use of psychedelics drugs, taking that Plutonic portal to access the shadow realms of the psyche. Ceres is the wisdom of mother earth speaking to us through plants and herbs, psychedelics such as mushrooms and Ayahuasca fall under that category.
True Lilith sextiles Leary’s North Node while also trining Pluto/Ceres making this journey into sacred medicines part of his life’s calling. He also had the obsessive fiery-red star Antares rising and Pluto/Ceres quincunx the AC which support the Dark Goddess energy.
Marilyn Monroe had a magnetism that was off the scales. The camera loved her osculating hips! She has True Lilith, otherwise known as osculating Lilith rising, opening a Lilith corridor from the 12th spanning down into the 1st. It contains glamorous Neptune and voluptuous Ceres. True Lilith is semi-sextile sexually intense Pluto.
Mean Lilith is quincunx Uranus (04′) and square Asteroid Lilith. So here we have the conflict, her sexuality V her emancipation. She did have a few lesbian flings, disillusion by being treated as a sex object. Desperately insecure, her oozing sexuality overwhelmed her. That Mean Lilith is trined by charming and beautiful Venus. So not something she could hide!
Pablo Picasso was the most prolific and famous artist of the 20th century. He was still painting and sexually active at the age of 90! He had a black hole corridor in the first house with True Lilith rising widely. This Lilith squared Saturn giving him that wrinkly sex appeal and longevity as an artist. True Lilith also trines the Moon and North Node. That all important artistic mission was aided by lunar imagination and the ladies.. His muses were his many wives and lovers. Mean Lilith is quincunx hell-raising Eris and trined Neptune, his artistic experiments challenged the established art world at the time.
Johann Sebastian Bach spellbinding harpsichord music hypnotised the ear transporting one to heaven. His famous organ piece Toccata & fugue is truly mesmerising. True Lilith leans into the 1st house quincunx racey Mars,( his pieces were FAST) True Lilith is also trined Saturn, mixing technical mastery with Magic. Mean Lilith is semi-sextile his mystical Sun in the 12th house, uplifting heavenly music yes! His long Black Moon corridor spans the 2nd house of cash and contains the Lilith star Algol.
Johnny Cash had a very Lilith themed life, the troubled Country singer and “Man In Black” had a distinctive vocal style. Intoning songs of sorrow and redemption to prisoners. He got clean after a spiritual epiphany during a drug induced suicide attempt. Not surprising then to see he has True Lilith rising conjunct the North Node (06′!) He has a long Lilith corridor spanning the whole of the 1st house putting it at the forefront of his persona. It contains Lilith flavoured Eris (outlaw), Venus (love) & Uranus (rebel). His corridor culminates with a Mean Lilith in opposition to Asteroid Lilith on the gifted Star Spica. His 5 decade career and regeneration after meeting his 35yr work & soul mate June Carter, are beautifully described by his Lilith story.
Excerpt from forthcoming book. Lilith – Three Shades Of Darkness. Where I also look at Black Moon Lilith in the charts of David Lynch, Liz Green, Ron Hubbard, Peter Sutcliffe, Dennis Nilsen, David Soul and Stanislas De Guaita
Find Black Moon Lilith in Your Chart
Create your chart HERE
Choose “Extended Chart Selection“
In “Additional objects“, select “Lilith“. This is Black Moon Lilith (Mean)
In “hypothetical planets” select h13, This is Black Moon Lilith (True/Osculating)
The gap between them is the “Lilith Corridor”
I would like to submit a big question to you. Here is the data for Dominique Strauss-Kahn’s DOB: April 25, 1949, 11 am, Neuilly sur Seine (Paris).
I noticed that he was born with Moon 2° Aries and Black Moon 1° Aries closely conjunct the Midheaven at 5° Aries. And the time of the alleged attack, the Black Moon was conjunct this spot again (5° Aries). Does that suggest deception as in a setup, or does it speak of rape and retaliation for it?
We did talk about it here. I’m inclined to think honey trap. His chart echos Julian Assange to me.
http://darkstarastrology.com/dominique-strauss-kahn-horoscope-sexual-scandal/
Hi. Cool article. I have “True” Lilith in 16 degrees Virgo, and my AC in 19 degrees Virgo..does this count as Lilith Rising? My Mean Lilith is in 3 degrees Libra.
Yes I’d count that as rising I think. AC is important and anything 10 degs above or below the AC puts it into the Gauquelin power zone also. Usually I give 2.30degs for Lilith with planets, and 3 degs for Luminaries and angles.
What if lilith is at the top of someone’s chart? particularly 0 degrees virgo 48 minutes out of leo. also is there a way to find osc. lilith on astro? what is the value number?
Hi Alec. Is that conjunct your MC? Very important, but even better you have Lilith conjunct the mighty REGULUS!
http://darkstarastrology.com/regulus/
True osculating Lilith is h13 on Solar Fire.
Awesome article!!!! I have Lilith in the first,conjunct Uranus, my North Node and prenatal Solar eclpise, trine my 5th house Moon,inconjunct my 6th house Saturn/Jupiter conj.,square my 9th house Nessus Ceres conj., all within a 3 degree orb. Were I to go with a 5 degree orb, then you can add a T-Square to my Midheaven/Vest conj, and 7th house intercepted Chiron in Pisces. I also have Pluto in the first house … sextile a Mercury/Mars/Neptune Scorpio stellium, and inconjunct Eris in the eigth. Not surprising that I have an extraordinary life story to match those aspects. hehehe… No surprise either that I’ve always been intrigued by Marilyn Monroe, am a Johnny Cash fan, and fascinated by Pablo Picasso.
hey marina: i don’t know if you’ve covered this on the blog or what. but, lilith returns, mine are coming up at the end of the year (nov and dec). last time around i was 18 and got into a really wretched car crash (no physical injuries) that totally pivoted my mental state and way of life in a different direction. the emotional issues and stress from my family, blaming me, etc…. sent me into a self-destruction spiral that i’m only now coming out of. i think there may be some correlation with this sense of transforming and my current pluto on natal moon and the upcoming lilith returns. what is your experience with natal black moon returns? thanx
Hi, Marina-
Am trying to dig deeper into this Lilith business of late and am so glad to find your work since, I must confess, most of what I’ve seen out there seems to be misogynist crap. Am finding myself confused by which is which on Astrodienst. Help? There is the Lilith that is an option under “additional objects” which seems to be asteroid Lilith, but then there is h13, h21, h58 and 1181 and I’m having trouble figuring out which one is Mean Lilith. I think I might inherently BE Mean Lilith at times, so I’d like to figure this out. Any thoughts at all would be welcome.
Thank you!
Yes, I think Marina should add a section to this post about finding Lilith in the charts at Astrodients. Black Moon Lilith you can find in the extended chart selection. The box with “additional ojbects” lists “Lilith” which is Black Moon Lilith (Mean).
Under “List of other horoscope factors and “hypothetical” planets” you will find h13 which is Black Moon Lilith (True)
h21 is Dark Moon Lilith.
Asteroid Lilith (1181) is found under “Asteroid name/number list with 16271 names”.
Bugger it, I’ve half done it now, may as well add it to the post
Hmmm…okay. I get Mean/True and the asteroid Lilith, but what is the difference between h21 (what you are listing as the Dark Moon) and h58 (which Marina lists as the Waldemath Moon, which I thought was the Dark Moon?)
Thanks for the speedy reply last night!
OK, I sould have written h58 instead of h21 for Dark Moon Lilith (Waldemath’s Moon). I don’t know what h21 is. I don’t think Marina uses it but will get her to confirm it for us.
Thanks! This has been incredibly helpful.
h21 is natural Lilith. We don’t need any more Liliths!, but Priapus is the opposite point of natural Lilith at h22 and his oversized phallus is an interesting one..lol. I did look at him here:http://darkstarastrology.com/lilith-transits-priapus/
what do you mean by natural lillith when speaking of h21…..
Mine falls in my 7th house. Uranus was on this point when I finally left my husband after years of Uranus transiting my 7th.
So I am confused as to what this means
M Lilith aries 4°51’26″ 9 6’41″
#g 1181 Lilith scorpio 9°52’42″
#h osc.Lilith pisces 28°52’54
#i Waldemath virgo 6° 4’28″
What is Waldemath?
My M Lilith is conjunct my Moon and Jupiter
My 1181 (Black?) Moon is conjunct my Venus
Can you shed any light?
Hi Zoey,
This should explain things a lot more clearly. http://darkstarastrology.com/triple-moon-goddess-lilith-astrology/
Lilith in the signs is quite meaningless to me I’m afraid. IMO the Liliths are important if they are in aspect tightly (Under 2.30 degs) to the personal planets or the angles or on an important star.
Also the oscilating Lilith is conjunct my Vesta and Pallas Athena. how effective are these in a chart?
LILITH 2012 …..
Hi
Can I get a lilith reading ? I was told i have a strong Lilith in my chart sun and moon in libra and both in 8 th house ,
I have a Lilith Conjunct my moon and conjunct my sun . I don’t I don’t know how to interpret this .!!!! Lol
Xo Jess