The sinking of the Titanic has always fascinated me as a very sad story of a vessel being pulled down into the underworld, to me it has elements of the Persephone myth about it. We have a time for Titanic hitting the Iceberg at 11.40pm. [wiki]. It’s a pretty phenomenal chart as you would imagine. Pluto on the Descendant (29′), South Node and Spica on the Midheaven (22′). Massive wealth, power, status. Titanic tragedy.
Titanic Horoscope
The Nodes are conjunct the MC/IC axis by only 22′, and this ship should have been a success with Spica on the MC, but it is being squared by the God of the sea Neptune and Persephone’s mother Ceres. Ceres is opposed Black Moon Lilith. Which can be a daughter rebelling against her mother (Much like described in the 1997 film Titanic with Kate Winslet & Leonardo Di Caprio.)
Lilith square Sun (31′) also describes Liliths anti-establishment ethos and which in the film was played out by 1st class passenger Kate & 3rd class emmigrant Leonardo.
Lilith can break up families, and bring tragedy. Ceres is about abduction and grief. So it’s not surprising these are in hard aspect. I’m sure many children lost their parents in the tragedy since there was a struggle for lifeboats and it was women and children first.
The chart is mostly below the horizon, or below sea level. The most interesting conjunction is the Moon and Eris both on Scheat. “It causes extreme misfortune, murder, suicide, and drowning.” [1] and with the Moon in particular “danger of accidents and by water”. I mentioned Persephone earlier and Eris to me is Persephone after the rape. In this case Pluto is the iceberg, ripping into her side. I also have found Eris in hard aspect to the Moon very dangerous and psychotic in my post on Psychopath Astrology. And we have a Hades Moon square Pluto to add to the Persephone theme. Just read the link and it makes sense with the whole tragedy
The Moon is conjunct Eris/Persephone below the horizon. This is the ship being pulled down into the underworld by Pluto the Iceberg. But Pluto is just re-balancing something. Ceres conjunct Neptune could be the big impossible dream, the opulence, the chandeliers, Persephone’s privileged background. The ship contained societies elite, most of whom must have survived. Ceres square Sun conjunct a Mercury retrograde. Well naturally!
Even the way the poor ship nose-dived like a torpedo after only 2 hours seems to be described by the Sun on the North Node at the IC. Titanic’s fate lay below sea level. Apparently there was an huge amount of coal stored in the bowels of the ship that caught fire and weakened its structure, melting its iron so that it snapped in two. Pluto is of course coal. Because of this huge wealth of Pluto the unsinkable was sink.
Pluto on the DC was on Betelgeuse.“Honors and titles will be given…If setting, these honors and titles will not come until after death.”. The Titanic has become a legend since it sank, so it is still very much alive in peoples consciousness. Titanic is big business and such is the obsession with it there are Titanic conventions and even an astrologer who specializes in finding the Titanic past-life connections in your chart! The AC was on the star Acumen the sting of the Scorpion which again makes me think of Pluto the God of the underworld stripping down this symbol of overblown wealth and privilege. All that luxury is now eroding at the bottom of the Atlantic.
Captain Smith – Titanic Synastry
Captain Smith’s natal North Node, Moon and Ascendant are all in the Titanic’s 8th house of death. His natal Moon opposes Titanic’s Uranus which is traditionally the planet of accidents, shocks and disaster. Smith’s Saturnian scythe is on the Titanic’s Venus, her luxury and wealth. His disastrous Uranus is Titanic’s destiny being that it is on her North Node/IC conjunction and in horary astrology the IC is the “End Of The Matter”.
Smith has Pluto on his own MC (55′) which makes him an agent of Pluto, Persephone’s abductor. His MC/Pluto falls on Titanic’s Mercury/Sun conjunction in the Underworld (4th house) both squaring the the sorrowful Ceres/Lilith opposition.
Captain Smiths Sedna falls on the calamitous Moon/Eris conjunction on Scheat. Sedna’s mythology is one of betrayal by the father, but it is also very similar to the myth of Persephone in the sense it is about the parent/child relationship and being forced to grow up in a very brutal manner. Captain Smith was responsible for the safety of his passengers and ship so he was the symbolic father. In effect he was responsible, albeit indirectly, for any children who had been orphaned by the tragedy and for them having to grow up quick.
I think it’s amazing how the astrology shows us why the story of the Titanic has continued to fascinate us 100 years on. There is an underlying mythology that touches us on a very deep level which is why the film Titanic is the second highest grossing film of all time. And even the fictional love story, created to carry the account of the Titanic’s sinking, is reflected in the horoscope of the sinking.
11:40 PM was ship time calculated the previous night for the local noon each day. On April 14th, the ship was at 44 Degrees 31 Minutes Longitude during the local noon.
Time zones are set at every 15 degrees of longitude.
Greenwich Time begins at 0 Degrees West Longitude and ends at 15 Degrees West Longitude
Greenwich -1 Hours begins at 15 Degrees West Longitude and ends at 30 Degrees West Longitude.
Greenwich -2 Hours begins at 30 Degrees West Longitude and ends at 45 Degrees west longitude.
Greenwich -3 Hours begins at 45 Degrees West Longitude and ends at 60 Degrees West Longitude.
Therefore, local noon for April 14th on Titanic was set for the -3 Hour time zone in the Atlantic. At that moment, it was 3 PM in Greenwich, England and 10 AM in New York.
Therefore when Titanic struck the iceberg at 11:40 PM Apparent Ship Time, it was 9:40 PM Eastern Time(April 14th in U.S.) and 2:40 AM Greenwich(April 15th in U.K.)
At midnight on April 14th/15th(the night of the sinking), ship time was tracked backwards 47 minutes for noon on April 15th(regardless of whether or not the ship was sinking). So once the clock hit midnight, the time was moved back to 11:13 PM April 14th and the ship finally sunk at 2:20 AM according to the new adjusted time.
It’s likely the clocks were set back that night since the crews on White Star Lines were sticklers for maintaining their schedules.
Everyone thinks the sinking took place in a space of 2 Hours and 40 Minutes but if you add 47 more minutes to the time(to account for the rollback on the clocks), Titanic sunk in a timespan of 3 Hours 27 Minutes.
Adding 3 Hours and 27 Minutes to 9:40 PM Eastern Time gives us;
1:07 AM Eastern Time (April 15th)
3:07 AM -3 Hours From Greenwich(April 15th)
6:07 AM Greenwich Time (April 15th)
This is the time Titanic sank, assuming the clocks were set back the night of the sinking.
Watch Schedules on Titanic
http://www.titanicology.com/WatchTablesFile.htm
I’m quite happy with ships time. For a chart we need location so if we use these corrected times what location do we use? Much Astrology is symbolic these days due to precession so this is a symbolic chart and it works for me. Eric Francis is using ships time too and makes the Moon/Eris observation. http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/daily-astrology/charts/titanic-astrology-pluto-eris/
Dear Marina, Since we are talking about the Sabian Symbols having so much meaning, I would like to inquire about my favorite point in the sky, Vulcanus. I will have to check where Vulcanus was at that time. It bodes incredible strength.
Again, I just love this website.
HAve looked everywhere for CAmeron’s birth time but no one seems to have it.
The Piscean moon might be in the 12th house? He seems to have a way of expressing the collective myths. But also very detailed in his work. Virgo asc? All guess work! But I bet he’s reincarnated off the Titanic.
I bet you are right!
uberqueenofwands, Cameron is connected with the Titanic, but was not on the Titanic. I mentioned who he was in an earlier post.
very interesting Jane! I wonder if Cameron is aware of his past lives enough to sense this as well. And can’t he just tell us his birthtime for this incarnation already?
Hi Marina: I’ve been following one thread of Titanic anniversary articles discussing the fact that in January 1912 there was a full Moon at “extreme proxigee” (closest approach of Moon to Earth in 300 years). This coincided with perihelion (shortest annual distance between Sun and Earth in over 100 years). The result was exceptionally high tides that over the months pushed icebergs further south than usual into shipping lanes. The shipwreck also occurred between two eclipses that April on the 1st and 17th, which adds a metaphysical spin to the geophysical slant of the tides. But in the end, the ship was going too fast, and the captain ignored warnings of icebergs in the area.
I sure wish I hadn’t thrown out the huge file I had on the Titanic! It was quite thick with charts that I’d spent ages on and papers and research material and all kind of observations. I’ve also written quite a few articles that now I can’t find. I also can’t find the Titanic charts in my Solar Fire. I don’t know what’s with that! [As I write this, it is bucketing down raining here in Avalon, Sydney, Australia - water gushing like crazy]. Curiously, I hung a fabulous old artwork of the Titanic in my kitchen and wondered whether the lease would be renewed on the house and found out a week or so later that I have to move. It felt like a Titanic connection there as I wondered if putting it up on the wall was a good idea
I had no idea that the 100 anniversary was coming up… curious that I threw out that huge file just days before it… thought to share! Back to packing and staying out of this enormous gushing water that’s pouring off the roof!
Marina your work is excellent but you made a mistake re the coal in Titanic’s hold, it cannot ignite or burn easily, coal need certain
conditions to burn, like oxygen , and a certain exposed surface etc.I can explain in more detail if needed.
It used 825 tonnes of coal a day.
The Titanic was a passanger ship. so it would carry enough coal only for steam generation.Coal is burned ,like 100 years ago, in special combustion chambers, where small amounts are exposed to an oxygen-rich environment with additional blowers to increase combustion rate. A compacted mass of coal cannot burn by itself.The mechanism of Titanic sinking is well documented, it did not break in 2 pieces due to fire.
Thanks Fanie, I’m an Astrologer not a scientist.;) (Jim), so I don’t know much about coal other than it makes a good barbie and it is ruled by Pluto!
Thank You.I found the following article with very good info about reasons and method of Titanic sinking :Vicki Basset, Undergraduate Engineering Review, Causes and effect of the rapid sinking of the Titanic.Its on Google. But Marina, your articles are better than many Scientists work… yes i am Leo so excuse my attitude …we like to be “know-it-alls” ,and sometimes we are even correct…in our own eyes…lol
Ha ha! I always have this with Leos being an Aquarian, see my regal Leo friend Uberqueenofwands’s comment on the Yod post. What a sweet compliment though re:Scientists. Leos aren’t the only ones that like flattery
Thank you Marina.Yes it makes sense that coal is ruled by Pluto, as coal mining cause massive environmental damage,lung disease, air and water pollution etc.Most coal types also contain a percentage of sulphur, causing acid rain.I can never forget that fine black dust and the smell of sulphur at my first job, penetrating everywhere…killing birds etc.Good Luck…