Silvio Berlusconi & Italy

What’s up with Italy’s astrology then? Doctor Europe has metaphorically ordered the Italians to have their stomachs stapled. For a country given to three hour long, four course lunches this might seem like hell on earth. That might well be, but surprisingly the Italians themselves are actually quite prudent. “Unlike their counterparts in Spain or the Irish Republic, ordinary Italians have not run up huge mortgages, and generally have very little debt”. [1]

Nevertheless, the overriding stereotype of Italians is generally that they are all designer suits, flash cars, flashy women and just, well flash. But am I describing Silvio Berlusconi here! Indeed like Thatcher in 80’s Britain, Silvio has become Italy personified. So why is Italy in such debt? Is it in their chart? And how does Silvio fit into the equation?

Italian Horoscope

*Italy’s chart has Sun trine Jupiter which will make it extravagant certainly and the Sun is on the fixed star Hoedus II, “indicates a native who may be petulant and lascivious, one who is said to be involved in depraved and vicious desires”. [2] A touch of the Borgias there. Italian TV does tends to feature a hell of a lot of scantily clad women which is reflective of Silvio’s Mars on the fixed star Phecda. “provided relevant configurations with Moon, Venus and Mars are present, it is an indication of a pathological sex nature”. [3] His Mars is sextile a Lilith/Venus conjunction…I think that qualifies as a “relevant configuration”! Silvio’s Mars is getting neutered by Neptune opposing it. Ouch, poor Tomcat.

Italy’s Venus however is frugal, being as it is conjunct Saturn. This is the prudence with money  quoted earlier. Most of my Italian family work very hard, defer gratification and shy away from credit cards and mortgages. But this Venus/Saturn conjunction is on the fixed star Pollux the evil twin in Gemini “this star is brutal and tyrannical, violent and cruel if in conjunction …with malefics (Saturn). Just as Mars has it’s good sides if the energy it creates is channeled constructively, so Pollux should not always be considered as unhelpful”. [4] With Venus “Strong and irregulated passions”. [5] Those passions (and cash) are being reined in big time from a square from transiting Saturn at 23º Libra. Austerity measures.

Silvio Berlusconi Horoscope

Back to Italy’s Sun before we write it off as a petulant goat! It’s Sun is only a degree away from the fixed star Bellatrix, the warrior Queen “If positive properties can be drawn out, will lead to advancement and success, but those who succeed always have to allow for being surrounded with envy and hatred…., courage, fighting spirit, strategic talents, ability to organize, discrimination…” All good stuff, “Italians do it better” Madonna said… but then we get “… Reckless aggressiveness of a belligerent daredevil”. [5] Oh.

Silvio does have synastry with this all important  Sun, but in an unexpected way. It sits on the empty leg of his T square. So we get Italy’s Sun opposing his own Jupiter on the fixed star Sabik which “causes wastefulness, lost energy, perverted morals, and success in evil deeds”. And with Jupiter “Material success, preferment in Church or law but criticized“. [6] this all makes a dreaded synastric grand cross with Silvio’s bossy Saturn and deceiving Neptune. Not great for Italy, but the missing link for Silvio.

The coming Lunar eclipse on 10 December 2011 falls on Italy’s Sun and the Sun will fall on Berlusconi’s Sabik Jupiter. His “Evil deeds” may well be put under the spotlight. Italy’s Sun is also conjunct the North Node on the fixed star Capella, It gives honor, wealth, eminence, renown, a public position of trust and eminent friends”.  [7] The eclipse will activate this lucky spot.

So all is not lost for Italy, Silvio Berlusconi’s grand cross synastry with Italy ended up crucifying it’s people. Now Italy has a chance to resurrect itself. Italy’s Moon is on the fixed star Gacrux in the crucifix, perfect for the country that houses the Roman Catholic Church. This Moon is getting a beneficial sextile from Tr Pluto. Yes deep transformation and resurrection indeed. I’m no economist, but the astrology at least looks hopeful.

1 What’s the matter with Italy? Laurence Knight BBC News
2. Fixed Stars and Judicial Astrology, George Noonan, 1990, p.17.
3 & 4. Fixed Stars and Their Interpretation, Elsbeth Ebertin, 1928, P 53, p.33.
5, 6 & 7. Fixed Stars and Constellations in Astrology, Vivian E. Robson, 1923 p 187, p.199, p151.
*”The horoscope for the Italian Republic is set for 10 June 1946. King Victor Emmanuel III, who was tainted by his association with Mussolini, abdicated on 9 May 1946 in favour of his son Umberto. On 2 June a referendum was held on the future of the monarchy which produced a majority in favour of abolition. The announcement of the referendum results at  between 6:00 pm and 6:10 pm on 10 June was taken as a defacto proclamation of the Republic” The Book of World Horoscopes, Nicholas Campion, p.171.


10 thoughts on “Silvio Berlusconi & Italy

  1. Another riff on the Virgin/Whore thing…he has that Neptune in Virgo opposition to Saturn in Pisces, square Jupiter in Sag. And that South Node and Chiron in Gemini sandwiching his M.C. It makes Cross of its own by sign. Either way, you could find enough Italians who would say that he crucified the country while in office.

  2. Interesting that Berlusconi career ended up crucifying his own nation under debt while on the contrary it is real that few Italians have those big individual debt as in other countries.
    More in depth, we can see in Italy a sort of double behaviour, there are individual behaviours and public behaviours.
    We can see clear in the life of Mr. Berlusconi, former President…, as he hided his pathological sex nature, so appearently firendly, in reality lusty and greedy…
    But the Italian characteristic is also the opposite!
    Personally a good guy, his public behaviour is not at all friendly!
    May mafiosi were so, good father of family and hard worker, but even capable to kill…

    Of copurse, these all are **extreme** cases! Not the general people… Not the normal people…

    But how can you explain this sort of double behaviour, more spread in Italy that in other European nations…

    1. Hiya, good question about the paradox. With Italy I think the chart is interesting with everything above the horizon, very extravert and showy. Yes you get the three dark Goddesses, Eris, Ceres and Lilith below the horizon. Like the raging mamma at home and the mistress tucked away somewhere.
      I think the dual nature come very obviously from Pollux like Uber said, the evil twin. Those dark goddesses below the horizon, the dark underbelly, the underworld and corruption. Pluto opposite mamma Ceres too. And then there is the Church and that whole Virgin/Whore thing..

  3. The correspondant for italian affairs working for the BBC about ten years ago (can’t remember his name) but he was their main expert on all things italian for 25 years said that Italy had weak government because of proportional voting. However, he said it didn’t really matter as Italy had two stronger institutions running it, namely the Church and the Mafia.
    Venus Saturn represents architecture/stone of beauty and of course Italy must make a lot of tourist Euros as people come to look at its ruins. Bernini is pretty impressive.
    Pollux might illustrate the underpinning Mafia, the evil twin. Scorpio rising is also a reflection of secret ways.

    While straying with friends about 15 years ago in Orvieto (Umbria) the EEC passed a rule that mozzarella could only be sold in sealed packs or cartons and not the traditional skeins which the buyer would have weighed and take what she wanted. This compromised the quality of the goods.
    The mozzarella di buffala man used to come anyway, from the farm and the word would go out when he was coming. At 4 am, someone would go to buy all his cheese. it was then divvied up between consenting adults and sold on. They took it in turns to get the cheese. A sort of mozarella resistance!

    Saturn Moon conj in B’s chart opp Neptune with Jupiter in the frame would give him a false sense of invincibility. Saturn Moon contacts tend to be very tough emotionally because they are fundamentally very lonely. He could cover this with Neptune and Jupiter, playing like Bacchus – the Roman equivalent of Dionysus.

    Dionysus is represented by city religions as the protector of those who do not belong to conventional society and thus symbolizes everything which is chaotic, dangerous and unexpected, everything which escapes human reason and which can only be attributed to the unforeseeable action of the gods.
    He was also known as Bacchus ( /?bæk?s/ or /?b??k?s/; Greek: ??????, Bakkhos), the name adopted by the Romans and the frenzy he induces, bakkheia. His thyrsus is sometimes wound with ivy and dripping with honey. It is a beneficent wand but also a weapon, and can be used to destroy those who oppose his cult and the freedoms he represents. He is also the Liberator (Eleutherios), whose wine, music and ecstatic dance frees his followers from self-conscious fear and care, and subverts the oppressive restraints of the powerful. Those who partake in his mysteries are possessed and empowered by the god himself. His cult is also a “cult of the souls”; his maenads feed the dead through blood-offerings, and he acts as a divine communicant between the living and the dead.

    Berlusconi seems to have played this archetype very well.

      1. Yes I think he is a sacrificial lamb. Probably not fair of me to blame all Italy’s woes on Silvios’ T square, but I did think it was quite stunning synastry. Really then it’s more like Silvio has been crucified then, sacrificed like Jesu.
        I voted in Sicily once, it was ridiculous, it turned into World War III in my family because half were voting Silvio’s “Forza Italia” and the other half some Christian PP party, which I nicknamed (Uncle) Pino’s Popular Front.
        Anyway I had two Uncles fighting over my vote because it was such a small village that every vote counted. I didn’t vote for either. The party list was so long and I had been bribed with so many drinks at the bar that I ticked “Fascist Nuns” or something like that instead. One of the uncles counted the votes and didn’t speak to me for a year.
        Italian politics…

        1. I can picture this. It really is very funny!!! Have just about laughed my pjs off!

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