Moon Conjunct Black Moon Lilith ~ White Mare

Moon conjunct Black Moon Lilith or quincunx Black Moon Lilith fuses two ‘moons’ together. So we get the mother and the anti-mother in one being. The Moon here is the Black Madonna, is extra potent and a Virgo archetype. This combination has to successfully merge the paradox of the virgin and the whore or the very worst manifestation of Lilith can surface. At its best, this is sheer priestess and occult ability at the highest level. The conjunction can work as a hard or soft aspect, so when it is good it is very good, but when it is bad it is terrible.

The Moon conjunct or quincunx Lilith gives popularity out of being unpopular and an offbeat sense of humour. The natives find their niche in the absurd and the surreal. Women and the goddess have a huge influence in their life. This can be because they were brought up by a single mother or by one who was quite bewitching and manipulative to the point it felt like she was inside them.

There will be a glorification of the feminine. In unenlightened men, this can veer to the misogynistic, as they detest feeling so beholden to the devouring mother. The men can alternate between worshipping and then abusing females. Women will simply feel happiest in the bosom of the goddess which could result in them rejecting marriage and a husband altogether. Of course, this is how Lilith will baby-steal symbolically.

Women may not physically have children due to their sexual orientation. If they do marry they may have great difficulty conceiving, whatever happens, childbearing does not come or happen naturally for them. As the archetype of the witch and the crone, Moon conjunct Lilith is perfect for midwives, devoting themselves to nurturing other women and their children as a substitute for their own. In a man, they may focus on humanitarian issues and mother those in suffering. They have an unconscious powerful sexuality always brimming under the surface, but it is concealed in an ice maiden casing.

They do not think they are sexy in the slightest, but others are intrigued by their sultry and somewhat coy mystique Moon quincunx Lilith mixes two unlikely energies together ingeniously and produces original and sometimes downright barmy solutions to lunar issues. This Black Moon aspect comes out as a surreal, truly looney sense of humour, and often yields rather ludicrous domestic arrangements. These people don’t give a fig what impression they make on the rest of the world, so their imagination has a free rein to go wherever it wants to.


Moon/Lilith~ (In*) Conjunct Aspects

Moon Conjunct Black Moon Lilith

Moon conjunct LilithExiled Nazi, Herman Goering was separated from his mother for lengthy periods as a child. He ended up hospitalized as a severely disturbed morphine addict. He was often hysterical and violent when fearful, but surprisingly, although callous he was also mawkishly sentimental. Comic actor Steve Martin actually worked as a magician in his early days and is known for his illogical and absurdist comedy routines.

More sorrowful manifestations of Moon conjunct Lilith are Kate McGann, whose mysterious disappearance of her daughter Madeleine still haunts the public to this day as well as James Bulger who was taken from his mother in a busy shopping centre, then tortured and murdered by two ten-year-old boys. 

Julie Walters; this character actress and comedienne was expelled from school for her “high jinks”. She is now famed for playing the mother of the witchy Weasley boys in Harry Potter. Evelyn Waugh wrote Brideshead Revisited. He was famous for his uncompromising and acidic sense of humour founding the Corpse Club “for those who were weary of life” [1] He offended many and was known as the nastiest man in Britain, but it was mainly a joke, he was warm and kind to those he was close to.

Alison Goldfrapp Surrealist singer inspired by pagan myths. She recently came out about her sexuality stating, “I am in a wonderful relationship with a wonderful person. It just happens to be with a lady… I’ve always found it claustrophobic to think about having to put things into categories like that. My sexuality is the same as my music and my life. Why does it need a label?” [2]

Moon conjunct Black Moon Lilith natives: William Lilly, Stanley Kubrickª, Ivanka Trump, 14th Dalai Lama, Jimmy Savilleª, Rudolf Hess, Giacomo Casanova, Tim Curry, Alison Goldfrapp, Janis Joplin, Bjorn Ulvaeus, David Soul, Lenny Kravitz, Robert Plant, Antonio Vivaldi, Bette Midler, Rose McGowan, Warren Beatty, Julie Walters, Steve McQueen, Burt Reynolds, Benedict Cumberbatch, Catherine Deneuve, Sean Penn, P. D Ouspensky, Dynamo (Magician), Dante Alighieri,  Douglas-Zeta Jones Davison.

Moon Quincunx Black Moon Lilith

Eddie Izzard is a British stand-up comedian, writer and political activist. He lost his mother to cancer when he was just six years old. Moon quincunx Lilith has an improvised quality, like Eddie Izzard’s comedy it leaps from one stream to another and then often just fizzles out with no conclusion. Let’s face it, these eccentrics really do need a sense of humour to get through the outrage they so often ignite with their total disregard for social mores and moral codes.

Eddie is unusual in that he has performed his routine in German, Spanish, Russian and Arabic, all languages he did not speak previously. He is fluent in French and has performed in the language too.

Izzard started to freely talk about his transvestism in venues like Edinburgh Festival as early as 1992…. His stance is that cross-dressing is neither part of his performance nor a sexual fetish… He remarks in his show Unrepeatable, “Women wear what they want and so do I.” According to Izzard, “Most transvestites fancy women.”.. Izzard identifies as “a straight transvestite or a male lesbian”. He has also described himself as “a lesbian trapped in a man’s body”,.. transgender, and “a complete boy plus half girl” ~ Wiki.

Lilith is sometimes identified as a hermaphrodite. Izzard supports the British Labour party and wants to run for London mayor in 2020. Contrasting his very flamboyant public image and outspoken political views, Izzard prefers not to discuss his sexual partners and keeps his love-life private.

Moon quincunx Black Moon Lilith natives: Steve Jobs, Diana Princess of Wales, Anton LaVey, Justin Trudeau, Mikail Gorbachev, Cesare Borgia, Brian Epstein, David Bowie, Agnetha Faltskog, Tom Robinson, Placido Domingo, Richard Carpenter, Barbara Cartland, Rudolph Valentino, Matt Dillon, Peter Cook, Eric Idle, Meg Ryan, Rita Hayward, Jennifer Aniston, Ashton Kutcher, Dan Howell, Kim Kardashian, Antonio Gaudi, Emile Zola, Walter De La Mare, Ernest Hemmingway, Leonard Bernstein, Roger Vadim, Sonny/Cher Davison.

UPDATE 2017. I am revising my Lilith work, and am only using the true version of Black Moon Lilith from now on. I personally find the true Lilith makes more sense and seems to give physical effects. (See Are we food for the Moon? post). The Mean version is useful to use as a transit because it gives an averaged-out position where we can roughly see where the Lilith energy is dispersed, but bare in mind it can waver by 30 degrees in a day.

*The Inconjunct is another word for the quincunx. In traditional astrology, neither the conjunction or the quincunx are technically ‘aspects’ because the planets are too close in distance to ‘see’ the other. The conjunction functions as a blind spot, while the quincunx an adjustment. They share the ‘blindness’, so that is why I have grouped them together. Aspectare is Latin for ‘To observe’, or look at attentively.
ªTime unknown, but a strong possibility due to their traits.
1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evelyn_Waugh.
2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alison_Goldfrapp

48 thoughts on “Moon Conjunct Black Moon Lilith ~ White Mare

  1. Marina thnx for the description of this aspect, i have searched online, but info on this particular conjunction is very scarce, i have it nataly in Leo conjunct Regulus an find all you have written very relevant for me!

    1. Hi Eizo ,

      Your Moon in opposition with your Lilith !!!
      ———————————————
      Unlike Lilith-sun connections that the relationship with the
      Thematize father and the father role, it goes with Lilith Moon
      Aspects to the relationship with the mother, her own mother role and
      the relationship with the children. Especially with difficult issues can there are problems, either because the woman against the

      Motherhood locks, get to meet her request no children
      or can it comes to abortions / miscarriages. as a woman
      could you deny your own femininity, as a man under a
      Mother have suffered, which would not let you or you as
      Partner compensation is considered. Have men with such aspects
      often difficult to accept women as equals, what
      can only be explained by fear of their strengths. even with
      harmonious aspect (trine / sextile) can be seen as the omnipotent mother and were perceived to be ever present, so that to the
      Development of your personality than-average effect
      had.

  2. Marina – oooohhhhh errrrrrrrrrr. I have my moon conjunct Lillith. I am studying psychology, have been initiated as a tantric goddess and am getting more pulled towards the study of sexuality in relationships for my masters and PHD. Oddly, I am also interested in recovery work for women who have been abused ‘rape as torture’ (in African countries) and it seems to be too traumatic for many therapists to want to touch. I’m very grounded in this situation, and believe I could even assist in repairing and rediscovering their sexuality. I’m not overtly sexual in a thrashy trashy way(VIRGO) better known for my quirky humor, compassion, efficiency and clinical accuracy.
    So interesting. I also have Lillith trine VENUS & Jupiter.

    1. Fabulous, why am i not surprised?. The work you are doing is just perfect for it.
      Lilith trine Jupiter is perfect for tantric, sex for enlightenment. I have that one too 🙂 We need to worship and be worshipped!
      Virgo is never trashy. Classy chicks all of them.

  3. Marina, Thank you for this article on Lilith. Finally have it straight that each of the 3 Liliths has her own glyph and personality. What I have been unable to figure out is how to get True and Mean Liliths. Your descriptions of the differences in people makes it imperative that I understand how to get True or Mean Liliths, since my astro dictionary left me even more confused. If you can, would you please tell me what words I should search for to find a simple formula for getting True or Mean Liliths? Thank you.

  4. Hi PattyLu,

    I explain the difference between them here: https://marinadarkstar.wpengine.com/triple-moon-goddess-lilith-astrology/

    “Just as there is a Lunar mean and true Node, so there is a Mean and True (osculating) Lilith. As I have found Osculating Lilith to have just as strong an influence as Mean Lilith. I took on board Lilith expert Kelly Hunters theory of there being a Black Moon Corridor with Osculating Lilith being the door. It’s has a vacillating path around the more steady mean orbit, giving it a much more unstable sensibility.
    Osculating Lilith has the same quality as an anaretic Planet; potent, fermenting, on the verge of changing. It’s energy sizzles and spits. Mean Lilith is more like a fermented refined magic. One that has matured. It’s more stable and focused.”

    Mean Lilith is in the drop down menu on Astro.com, True Lilith you need to add h13 in the extra bodies box.

  5. ThankyouThankyouThankyou!!! I have this! I have two Lilith Moons conjunting my Scorpio Moon and Pluto, all in the 6th house.

    I am going too keep reading this, thanks!

  6. Thank You for this article! i have struggled with this aspect all my life,
    Born w/ an aries moon conjunct north node and lilith in the 3rd house; then a virgo stellium sun/merc/venusrx/uranus/pluto w/ a few asteroids)in 7th house opposite chiron pisces in the 2nd Aquarius Rising w/ a descendant jupiter leo square mars conjunct neptune scorpio in the 9th house. I am a self taught astrologer & super sensitive empath w/ healing capabilities, I have healed myself and others using Alternative and NaTuRaL ways; especially drawn to the ways of mystics & shamans..
    Whew~ mostly eveyone tells me I’m Way too Intense, what they don’t realize is how many levels I FEEL & SEE. I AM the steaming volcano underneath the Ice Maiden mask~ Hahahhaa YeS! I shine equally well in the garden or the dancefloor. My LiFe has been rife w/ tragedy, suffering from various abuses,incest,saving my suicidal birth mothers life at the age 11, miscarriages, NDE’s,now to being separated by countries from my own teenage daughters that i homeschooled & raised most of their lives.
    We have a very strong “Love Bond” but they are growing and learning in many different ways with their father & stepmother. LoVe triangles fall at my feet,tho my suitors finds me a bit difficult to handle. I am extremely creative and multitalented nonconformist, perfectionist & rebellious truthteller. So Don’t even try to control me or fool me, Let Me just bee Me. Yep,I enjoy most being blissfully alone in NaTure, tho the company of animals and children always cheer me UP!! I was given the name “Christine” and now go by “Kali” witch suits Me just fine.

  7. what about a man’s Moon conjunct a woman’s Black Moon Lilith? I have this with a guy, and I am fascinated/magnetically attracted towards him.

  8. Hi there! just wondering what you mean by a virgo archetype,in what sense . I have lilith conjunct my moon in PISCES in the 10th house. Also trine pluto in scorpio in the 5th. I am seriously now considering midwifery.

    1. My version of a Virgo archetype is “”beholden to no man” as a woman, which means that they rule their own sexuality, it would work the same for a man. I wondered whether Virgo also could be a Lilith constellation. But there is some overlap. Virgo is more to do with Ceres and connected with pain and suffering, or atleast aleviating it. That’s why nursing is associated with Virgo. And also opiates (Poppies=Ceres) which help with pain relief.

  9. I’ve read up on Lillith more recently! It’s scarily true, the stuff I’m reading!

    I have Moon conjunct Lillith in Pisces and I was indeed raised solely by women (my mum and the 3 sisters on my mum’s side), my mum is definitely witchy and is a borderline full-blown psychic! There is occult activity within my life and my mother’s past (she has her sun in the 8th house by the way).

    I’m sexually attracted to other guys, and I’m perverted (I like porn with guys taking the submissive role). I’m infact virgin and I definitely don’t think I’m sexy at all, although people do claim to be attracted to me in that way.

    And I do indeed focus on humanitarian issues, and I have views which contrast the nature of my sexuality (Even though I love forceful role-play with guys taking the submissive role – I am angry at any gender roles within a society, the lack of equality, and extremist feminists who think feminism is all about women and that men are inferior or equally shovenist men… and no I’ve never been raped or abused)

    Scary or what? LOL!

  10. I’ve been studying astrology for many years, but have just discovered Lilith in the past few weeks. It seems often to be included in ephemerides and charts without explanation. Your writing on Lilith is tremendously helpful to me.
    Lilith is a prominent element in my chart: conjunct Moon; forming a grand trine with Moon, Pluto and Venus; also squaring the Sun. The energies associated with Lilith have captivated and obsessed me from as far back as I can remember. There are times when I can barely think of anything else. Luckily, I’ve been able to sometimes to translate this into some positive, tangible outcomes.

    1. Lilith is making many things finally become clear to me now, profoundly, so thanks again. Looks as though I am actually getting a Lilith return at the end of this month. Moreover, Lilith is just now passing ahead of Jupiter. I bet it’s evincing a general trend toward Lilith awareness in the public now.

      (It’ll be Jupiter-Sun-Lilith more or less conjunct when my Lilith return is exact! Really interesting.)

    2. oops yeah the three-way thing is not happening. mercury in pisces opposing jupiter; i tend to mash up facts when it feels right.

      By the way, meant to say ‘point’ and not ‘element’ in the first post.

      I’ve been writing something which, as it turns out, is pretty relevant to the Lilith thing. Might be keen to send it via some contact address but not comfortable as yet posting directly to the forum.

    1. Hiya. Yes, just… I would count wide ones to the luminaries. Usually I would’nt go over 2.30 for the planets. But 3-4 degs for Sun, Moon, Angles and because its a conjunction. 4 is valid if you feel it.

  11. Dear Marina,

    I can’t wait to read your book on Lilith!
    There definitely isn’t much information available on her and she definitely is the key for so much needed healing and integration, not only personally but for humanity as a whole.
    The more I find about it, the more significant it becomes and the more prominently it comes to my mind, yet I’m still putting the pieces together about how it applies to my chart.

    My asteroid Lilith is conj both my Pluto and my Moon in the first house (Libra), and my Black Moon Lilith is by my Asc in the 12th and trining my Sun in the 8th. Lilith is now conj my Chiron too,which I feel is also important. What do you think?

    Much love
    Wendy

  12. Hello Marina,

    What would you consider an appropriate orb for a prominent moon-lilith conjunction?

    I have moon at 11 degrees Pisces and lillith at 20 degrees Pisces, are those two completely seperate in my chart?

  13. This has Jimmy Saville written all over.

    ‘in unenlightened men this can veer to the misogynistic, as they detest feeling so beholden to the devouring mother. They can alternate between worshiping and then abusing females.

  14. “In unenlightened men this can veer to the misogynistic, as they detest feeling so beholden to the devouring mother” This very much describes my serious issues with Men at this time and even moreso with my teenaged Son! Perhaps this is my perspective given I now have progressed moon conjunct Jupiter & Lilith with progressed Mercury stationed Rx right on natal BML. Having Venus Rx conjunct Chiron sextile freaky & weird Mars Aquarius. Being me whether it inspires “good” or “bad” out of another Man can’t continue to deprive me of my truth, painful and all. To live does spell evil backwards! lol

    Very insightful and interesting post as always!

  15. At the time of the Boston Marathon bombing, Lilith was conjunct
    an ‘occultation’ of Moon/Vesta. This suggests sacrifice involving
    the public. Lilith appears in this context as a pernicious force
    running contrary to the interests of public (Moon) safety (Vesta).

    1. was just thinking about her yesterday… that she reminded me of someone who was a victim of childhood sexual abuse. her open aura, rough around the edges in a sense of having gone through the hard knocks but very vulnerable, pain triggering self-destruction.

    2. Thanks guys, I have added these. Didnt have Kubrick in my database since he had no time. Janis was just out of my search range of 2.30º. But with True Lilith at 3º conjunct Moon she is too good an example to leave out.

  16. I think when transit BMLilith conjuncts natal moon even at the mid-point, the emphasis on being more than a wife — more than a mother; where women often respond to the career question, “What do you?” by responding, just a housewife — just a mother — just whatever. For me this 2010 transit was in my natal third house where pragmatic Moon in Capricorn is not warm and fuzzy anyway, LOL. I do not think it coincidental my change of life began in 2008, so that by 2010 this conjunction was also doing a transformation dance with Pluto ingress Capricorn 2008. Can you relate to the banshee : Natal Moon in Cap, Transit BML and Pluto in Cap ?

  17. THIS speaks to me…10/17/54 9:36 PM Kansas Reno Cty USA….REALLY REALLY SPEAKS TO ME…THANK YOU!

  18. I have a moon- Lilith conjunction in the 11th house in Virgo. Can’t tell you how accurate your description is. Just about everything you’ve mentioned is true of me…. uncannily so.
    I’ve always felt a little bewildered by my decision, now age 50, to never marry, and I do grieve with the thought and emotional emptiness of the possibility of never creating a marriage. But, now I see perhaps I never will, because I do recognize my significant preference to focus my energy thru other types of relationship channels, including with the Goddess. I’ve recently come to accept that I won’t bare children, and it comes as a bit of a relieve to have it also acknowledged here that it just may be in the stars for me that I’ll never marry, as well. Amazing epiphany for me- thanks.

  19. This rings true to me too. I’ve got a virgo moon in the 12th house conjuct virgo lilith. It sounds like a grisly combination, doesn’t it?

  20. Mine are 2 seconds apart, in the first house, in Sagittarius.
    A perfectly bang-on interpretation. Thank you !

  21. ? have grand cross between pluto mercury mars moon-lilith .? am so feminist and sometimes can be exhausting in Turkey.? detest some traditional things.women cook,do cleaning,baby-sit and generally climb down.? dont know how can ? accommodate to marrige.? detest men’s nature but ? wanna marry and to be happy like others.anyway ? am just 22.? hope writing is understandable.

  22. conjunction Moon(20°)-Lilith(24°)-Pluto(27°)in Virgo. 4 yrs moved from eastern to western hemisphere, from the northern to southern hemispere and this conjunction moved from 4/5th house to the 7th house (Moon exactly on the descendant). Virgo is an earthy sign. Does such conjuction create “cave man lifestyle” ? I love being alone. I have usually few friends, need deep psycho-analytical conversation, tired by shallow small talk. Conjunction is part of big trine (Mars in Capr., Saturn in Taur.). On the other hand there is an excact cardinal T-square (Sun-Uranus-Mars/Mars in apex). I suppose there are two constellations (dynamic cardinal t-square and big earthy trine) I am not able to work with. Where does all this energy come from ??? T-square, Mars in apex (currently transited by Pluto)or deep well embodied by Moon-Lilith-Pluto ?? Am I fated to be exiled (literally or in metaphorically) ?

  23. Hi, what is the widest orb you allow for a moon and Lilith conjuncts to be felt in a personal chart ?

  24. Hi Marina, my brother has BMW at 0°Leo41′. There is a 9 year difference (me=1962, he=1969). What to look for during the post Jan 21 Lunar Eclipse phase? My natal BMW is conjunct Pluto, 2ND house, and have a tendency towards feeling beholden to women as you described.

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