Hmmmm as you know, I am pretty skeptical of the tropical zodiac, especially when you look into the stars of the constellation aries and find they are all in Taurus a sign very different to the aries archetype. Jamie had a great book which shows which stars rule which part of the body and it very accurate,I think assigning a whole month of people to have “head” issues is way too vague. I really enjoyed looking into Aries here: http://darkstarastrology.com/aries-horoscopes-zodiac-signs-constellation/
I grew up with Aries parents. They happen to go very well with the Aries stereotype, passionate, jealous, childlike, always fighting, yelling italians and not able to empathize very well. They actually have both their Suns at after 24 degs Aries therefore they would still be Aries in Sidereal. But they had other factors too.
Mum: Moon=Antares and Mars=Algol. Dad Mars=Capulus.
i’m an old fashioned sunsign astrologist…everything comes from the sun, constellations incidental. The earth in 360 days travels around the sun and is exposed to 12 different sections, noted in 30 degrees, 60 seconds. the planets likewise pass through the 12 energy fields. The degress of sun earth, moon and nodes are primary. all others hold interest as well and aspects to the sun add to personal vitality etc.
astrology of criminality is self protective. and red flags come true
…..folks (round ‘ere) used to believe old Earth is flat, at least for a while, having forgotten another knowing, nutters……its a crime! Hang Galileo – better yet, hang the Pope!! (I’ll burn fo that… )
….and did we remember? Did the Solar disc step into flat-Earth shoes….and further forget
……do the stars turn around some unseen center, incidental…..is there anything that isn’t, incidental? Anything that is….’they’ say when the poles shift the whole sky will shift with it – NAAAH, wadatheyknow…..or is it Earth alone that shifts…..birthing new ‘time’, everything in motion……laughter echoes through the forest, drifting on the breath of the stars….
so, is astrology born of the age of Pisces a Taurus and Aries psychic imprint playing out it’s last throws of the dice in the patriarchal gambling rooms….the Sun casts long shadows before it sets….before the Full Moon rises once more……illuminating all within the shadow of the night……..do the stars ever set….
You notice rob, constellations shifted w/ time but the ‘signs’ didn’t! constellation; allegory, sun; energy field. EVERYTHING COMES FROM THE SUN. I am amazed that people actually believe constellations are anything more than pictures!
rob, astrology charts put earth in center to acertain AC/MID etc, Astrology dates pre-heliocentric time, the idea died long ago that constellations were source of sign energy even as earth centered charts are still used. stars have energy too, question astroids, Chrion is a commet and the GC is important.
Ellie A: My sun is at 10.58 pisces so I can’t see any fixed stars nearby!
There will be a star or two on your Sun I think. This link has lots of stars, longitudes listed for 1950 (precess stars forward 5 minutes every 6 years) constellationsofwords.com/stars/Stars_Michael_Erlewine.htm
How do you feel about the sun/moon midpoint? Noel Tyl seems to think it’s very important!
Noel recommended I study midpoints, and I bought the book he suggested, “Midpoints” by Don McBroom. I do recognize the importance of the Sun Moon midpoint but have not yet studied it in charts and with the synastries as you and Lucy have. I should!
I’ve read most of what’s available online about midpoints, all very interesting…but it can get overwhelming at times as there are so many midpoints to look at. I generally stick to the sun/moon midpoint as it’s amazingly accurate…mostly in relationships…but im still unsure about how it applies to an individual. Noel’s books are really good too, and Basil Fearrington has some great case studies on the themetaarts.com site. I suppose it all boils down to planetary energies, similar to the view you and Marina espouse on aspects, being far more important than signs.
Well, I’ll be damned. After hanivg an intense *peak* experience and being between several dimensions of art, music, and harmony last night, I am feeling Vesta revving up her flame and lighting fire under my arse ..perhaps leading up to the New Moon in last degree of my Leo fifth house .Might explode over here (in a good way). Looking forward to seeing how this gold standard applies and adds its touch. Hopefully it will be a Midas touch.Thanks everyone for teaching me that it’s all happening the way it’s supposed to .and the stars never lie ..:)victoria
Hmmmm as you know, I am pretty skeptical of the tropical zodiac, especially when you look into the stars of the constellation aries and find they are all in Taurus a sign very different to the aries archetype. Jamie had a great book which shows which stars rule which part of the body and it very accurate,I think assigning a whole month of people to have “head” issues is way too vague. I really enjoyed looking into Aries here: http://darkstarastrology.com/aries-horoscopes-zodiac-signs-constellation/
I grew up with Aries parents. They happen to go very well with the Aries stereotype, passionate, jealous, childlike, always fighting, yelling italians and not able to empathize very well. They actually have both their Suns at after 24 degs Aries therefore they would still be Aries in Sidereal. But they had other factors too.
Mum: Moon=Antares and Mars=Algol. Dad Mars=Capulus.
i’m an old fashioned sunsign astrologist…everything comes from the sun, constellations incidental. The earth in 360 days travels around the sun and is exposed to 12 different sections, noted in 30 degrees, 60 seconds. the planets likewise pass through the 12 energy fields. The degress of sun earth, moon and nodes are primary. all others hold interest as well and aspects to the sun add to personal vitality etc.
astrology of criminality is self protective. and red flags come true
Errr,I have mercury=antares and algol=asc, Marina your mum must have been pretty intense I’m thinking!?
Oh god intense, intense, intense!!!!lol
Lucy in the Sky……
…..folks (round ‘ere) used to believe old Earth is flat, at least for a while, having forgotten another knowing, nutters……its a crime! Hang Galileo – better yet, hang the Pope!! (I’ll burn fo that…
)
….and did we remember? Did the Solar disc step into flat-Earth shoes….and further forget
……do the stars turn around some unseen center, incidental…..is there anything that isn’t, incidental? Anything that is….’they’ say when the poles shift the whole sky will shift with it – NAAAH, wadatheyknow…..or is it Earth alone that shifts…..birthing new ‘time’, everything in motion……laughter echoes through the forest, drifting on the breath of the stars….
so, is astrology born of the age of Pisces a Taurus and Aries psychic imprint playing out it’s last throws of the dice in the patriarchal gambling rooms….the Sun casts long shadows before it sets….before the Full Moon rises once more……illuminating all within the shadow of the night……..do the stars ever set….
sound of snoring…..or crickets….
….with Diamonds!
You notice rob, constellations shifted w/ time but the ‘signs’ didn’t! constellation; allegory, sun; energy field. EVERYTHING COMES FROM THE SUN. I am amazed that people actually believe constellations are anything more than pictures!
quite so…I join you in that amazement! yes, allegory, Sun, energy field, yes, yes….whats up?
rob, astrology charts put earth in center to acertain AC/MID etc, Astrology dates pre-heliocentric time, the idea died long ago that constellations were source of sign energy even as earth centered charts are still used. stars have energy too, question astroids, Chrion is a commet and the GC is important.
Kuiper belt: (many astroids)
why would you ever think I don’t agree…..
cause stars are wild cards, suns in their own right, new astrologers emphasize their importance hence constellations…
There will be a star or two on your Sun I think. This link has lots of stars, longitudes listed for 1950 (precess stars forward 5 minutes every 6 years) constellationsofwords.com/stars/Stars_Michael_Erlewine.htm
Thanks for the list. I found 2 stars but I’ve found no info on them…YET!!!:-). I’m constellation aquarius though so I’ve that to go on for now.
Noel recommended I study midpoints, and I bought the book he suggested, “Midpoints” by Don McBroom. I do recognize the importance of the Sun Moon midpoint but have not yet studied it in charts and with the synastries as you and Lucy have. I should!
I’ve read most of what’s available online about midpoints, all very interesting…but it can get overwhelming at times as there are so many midpoints to look at. I generally stick to the sun/moon midpoint as it’s amazingly accurate…mostly in relationships…but im still unsure about how it applies to an individual. Noel’s books are really good too, and Basil Fearrington has some great case studies on the themetaarts.com site. I suppose it all boils down to planetary energies, similar to the view you and Marina espouse on aspects, being far more important than signs.
Well, I’ll be damned. After hanivg an intense *peak* experience and being between several dimensions of art, music, and harmony last night, I am feeling Vesta revving up her flame and lighting fire under my arse ..perhaps leading up to the New Moon in last degree of my Leo fifth house .Might explode over here (in a good way). Looking forward to seeing how this gold standard applies and adds its touch. Hopefully it will be a Midas touch.Thanks everyone for teaching me that it’s all happening the way it’s supposed to .and the stars never lie ..:)victoria