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Hillary Clinton ~ President Or Prison?

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Hillary Clinton Astrology

25 Years ago, if I was a US citizen, maybe I would have voted for Hillary Clinton. Back then, fresh out of art school and a liberal/left winger, I was also quite naive politically, but in those days, there was no alternative media. Even 10 years ago, in my then feminist mindset, I still might’ve thought any woman as a candidate was preferable to Donald Trump.

In today’s culture of identity politics, if you are part of the LGTB community, a celebrity, arty, an immigrant, a hippie, new ager, latino, black or a woman then you vote Democratic. This seems to stand, no matter who the leader of the party is! But in this election, that could all change. I said I didn’t want to look at Hillary Clinton’s chart originally because of the missing birthtime, and I’m still not going to directly.

True to Hillary’s character, we have many different times just to throw us off the scent. However we can still look at the chart of her only daughter, Chelsea Clinton, who does have an A rated time. The idea came to me after watching newly discovered Vedic astrologer Joni Patry’s commentary on the election. Bravely, Joni is the only astrologer (out of the across-the-board predictions of Hillary to win,) that says Hillary may NOT be inaugurated.

Joni Patry seems to agree with me, that Trump has a karmically significant chart. Joni brings up the fixed star Regulus connection and Trump’s synastry to the US horoscope. This is why I don’t think Hillary has the Presidency in the bag at all! But without a clear time for Hillary Clinton, I cannot put my head on the block and state outright that Trump will win, just that he has a good chance.

Neptune/South Node ~ Election Fraud

MedusaWith Neptune on the South Node in the sky during the election, the chance of election fraud is very high. I had the same concerns with the Brexit vote, and my gut wanted to go for a sure ‘Leave’ result. However when the polls, betting odds and peer pressure is all against it, you tend to err on the side of caution. Even worst than “Brexit” though, a prediction of a Trump win gets you labelled as biased, or much worse…

However, I will do a Perseus on this question and use the mirror of Chelsea Clinton’s chart in order to avoid looking directly at the Medusa that is Hillary. I’m also interested in the relationship between Chelsea and her mother, since it strikes me as being so connected with Ceres/Eris themes. Eris has been triggered by Uranus on and off this year, and during that time it has been joined by Ceres too.

If Eris is Persephone, then the dark triad of Ceres/Eris/Pluto and narcissism are also highlighted in the collective. On a personal level for Chelsea, her father Bill is typecast playing predator Pluto and mother Hillary suits co-dependant, martyr Ceres who can suddenly turn on you. Chelsea’s microcosmic drama is playing out in the media macrocosm right now.

Chelsea Clinton’s Horoscope & Hillary As Sun

Chelsea Clinton Horoscope
Chelsea Clinton Horoscope

Chelsea Clinton’s chart has a Yod to Ceres and a very tight Venus/Pluto opposition. Both Persephone signatures. The house of the mother is the 10th house, so this represents Hilary in Chelsea’s chart. In whole sign houses the 10th is the sign of Leo and contains the MC, North Node and the Moon. It describes a lioness mother, a queen of high standing.

The Leo decan 1 Moon is the most elevated planet in the chart, Chelsea must really look up and admire her mother. Herself a mother of two this Moon could of course be describing the importance of Chelsea’s own status as a mother. Chelsea’s North Node is on Regulus, which means Chelsea’s soul evolution and life purpose is tied up with Donald Trump! Trump’s Ascendant is also on Regulus.

But how do we unravel Hillary Clinton from all of this? The Sun rules the 10th house of the mother. So the Sun in Pisces is Hillary in Chelsea’s chart. This fits as Hillary will have a Pisces Moon wether she was born at 8am or 8pm. The Sun is opposite a very tight Mars/Jupiter conjunction, both retrograde in Virgo. The Virgo/Pisces axis tends to reflect themes of Victim/Saviour and of course Hillary has continually played the saviour on the world stage with her so called ‘charity’, the Clinton Foundation.

Bill Clinton in Chelsea’s chart is shown as the 4th house ruler Saturn opposite another retrograde planet Mercury. Again this falls in the Virgo/Pisces axis. That Virgo house in Chelsea’s chart describes her father very well. Mars/Jupiter describes the sex addiction and scandals while Black Moon Lilith shows the ‘other women’. So I’m happy with using the Sun a significator for Hillary.

Hillary Clinton Peak Periods & Transits

Transits to Chelsea’s Sun will show us how Hillary will fair in this 2016 election. We can also perhaps try zodiacal releasing from the sign of Leo in Chelsea’s chart to see when her mother’s peak periods are. We can also turn the chart like we do in horary astrology where Chelsea’s 10th house becomes Hillary’s 1st, but if we do this it means that we will have another Leo rising chart, just like Donald Trumps. So it is almost like Hillary and Trump are two sides of the same coin. Each one is showing the collective their own shadow and the division is between the sexes too. Hillary is the devouring mother and witch to men while Trump is the misogynist pig for women. Check your mother/father issues with each one!

Hillary Clinton Election 2016

Chelsea’s part of fortune is in Gemini, so mutable signs are peak periods. Looking at Leo for Chelsea’s mother’s peak periods, we see Hillary is ending a 20 year, Virgo L1 peak cycle that started back in Nov 19 1998. Hillary was first lady to Bill Clinton from Jan 1993 – 2001. The Monica Lewinsky scandal broke at the start of this Virgo 1998 period. Virgo for Chelsea happens to be the house containing Saturn Bill and the sexual scandal stellium of Mars/Jupiter and Lilith.

This makes sense in terms of the themes I have uncovered so far. It seems the Lewinsky scandal kicked off Hillary’s determination to be a politician in her own right. In 1999 Hillary became the first, 1st lady to become a candidate for elected office and now here we are in 2016 with Hillary running for president herself. This peak period clearly shows Hillary’s rise as a political force in the world. But, it comes to an end in August 2018.

President or Bust?

I’m not sure how well turning the chart works with zodiacal releasing, but I find it uncanny that this story seems to fit so well with Hillary’s rise in politics. Using Chelsea’s chart, in Mar 19 2016, Hillary started a new Pisces L2 peak cycle, which is also a loosening of the bond year! (Hillary as the Sun in Chelsea’s chart and Hillary’s actual natal Moon are both in Pisces.) So during this time Hillary either becomes president or retires from politics altogether.

As stated in the Trump post, Obama has a loosening of the bond in May 2017 and Trump has one starting in Dec 2017. What are the chances?!! Using this turning method, Hillary’s bonds ends in Mar 2017, so both democrats are having this rare change in the same year. This could be read two ways. Yes Hillary will be the next president and Obama is coming to the end of his time. OR the Democratic party, in its current form, is on its way out.

2017 Horoscopes

25 COMMENTS

  1. It is presumptuous to think that if one doesn’t like Trump they are Hilary supporters. It is insulting for someone to assume that the ones that didn’t vote for Trump voted for Hilary only because she is a woman or voted for anyone for superficial reasons. I do not listen to the main stream media but seldom. I do not stereotype myself – I have multiple aspects to my personality as we all do. I am not left or right. I just am.
    I do respect your astrological skills Marina. But it does seem a lot of people have swapped one form of propaganda for another. The Power would not have let Trump get elected if they didn’t want him in office.

    • I spent four years in hardcore analysis – that is 3 times a week Jungian analysis. I always had a sense of humour and it increased with analysis. So if I say I’m a fascist – well I can be. I can also be a lot of other things. All concepts of self are theatre at the end of the day. Am I hard on women? How do you work that out? As for upstaging Marina? never – we’re friends and we bounce a lot off each other. I suppose I can’t even make jokes now about being a fascist or a saint or anything else… for fear of being judged.. I hope that whatever I add from an astrological pov is to augment what Marina writes.
      Needing to be in the spotlight?? How on earth do you work that out??? I can only be authentic to things I agree with – I’ve agreed with some posters and not others!

    • April Showers – Can you explain what you mean by The Power in the above post – honest question but do you mean a politics power or a god power?

  2. UQW – In regard to your October 24th comment which didn’t have a reply button…

    Reading comments of yours at this site I’ve noticed you are very hard on women. Marina seems to be the only one you really respect & you’ve often tried to upstage her – needing to be in the spotlight always. You’ve even claimed to be a fascist! You need to analyze yourself.