Cherokee Rattlesnake Prophecy

October 3, 2010
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The Cherokee Rattlesnake Prophecy, also called the Chickamaugan Prophecy, is part of the Cherokee prophesies of 1811 made by “Charlie” and two women of the Cherokee tribe. They had visions in early February of 1811 near Rocky Mountain in Georgia. These prophesies are all over the internet, and from what I can gather, they were originally documented by missionaries and then finally published in 1993 in the American Indian Quarterly [1].

The Rattlesnake Prophecy contains reference to planets and stars, and shows similarities to Mayan astronomy, with emphasis on Venus and Jupiter, Orion and the Pleiades. Their calenders were similar, both apparently marking 2012 as a major cross over point. I will go through some of the detail and see how it relates to modern astronomy and astrology. You can see the entire Cherokee Prophesies at Crystalinks [2].

The Pleiades

The “Rattlesnake” seems to be one of the 13 major constellations in Cherokee astronomy, and at the tip of it’s tail are the Pleiades. The Pleiades is a cluster of seven stars in constellation Taurus. The brightest of them being Alcyone at 0 degrees Gemini. The Pleiades have been important to all cultures around the world, and first documented in China in  2357 BC [3] , and even getting a mention in the Old Testament of The Bible, “Canst thou bind the sweet influence of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?” [4]. Robson says that “sweet” must be a mistranslation, because the astrological influence of the Pleiades is “distinctly evil” [5], and this is the consensus of all astrological writings on the Pleiades. They give tragedies and sorrow, and their association with the tears of the weeping sisters links them to the “traditions of the Flood found among so many and widely separated nations, and especially in the Deluge-myth of Chaldea” [3].

Jupiter

Rattlesnake Prophecy:When the Earth sees the fingers of Spearfinger strike Jupiter, when the ages of the Rings and wheels tell it is the ending of the ages of cycles of 5, this will be the sign for the whole earth, for all the earth will see this thing, to wake up from sleep.”

In July 1994, Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 struck Jupiter “with dramatic effect“ in the first direct observation of an extraterrestrial collision of solar system objects [6]. Almost exactly 15 years after the Shoemaker-Levy 9 impact, Jupiter took another massive hit in July 2009, leaving a crater the size of Earth.

On 9 May 2010 amateur astronomer Anthony Wesley took a picture of Jupiter and was astonished to discover one of the giant cloud bands had totally disappeared. This happened since June 2009, so it is a fair assumption that one or both of the comet strikes are responsible. The picture above is from The Planetary Society [7].

Transit of Venus

Rattlesnake Prophecy: “In the year 2004 and 2012 an alignment will take place both on the Cherokee Calendar and in the heavens of the Rattlesnake Constellation both. It is the time of the doublehead serpent stick. It is the time of the Red of Orion and Jupiter against White Blue of Pleiades and Venus.”

On 8 June 2004 there was a transit of Venus, when Venus can be seen as a black dot moving across the face of the Sun. This was the first transit of Venus in over 120 years, and was conjunct the Rigel, a bluish white star in constellation Orion.

The next transit of Venus will be on 6 June 2012, and following that not for over another 100 years. The 2012 transit of Venus comes two weeks after a solar eclipse in the Pleiades. The day of the transit of Venus, Jupiter is in the Pleiades. Venus and the Sun are again on Rigel, and Mercury is also in Orion. For both the 2004 and 2012 transits, Venus is retrograde.

Summary

I believe there is solid astronomy behind this prophesy, the predicted comet strikes on Jupiter certainly came true with dramatic effect, and the prophesy was published a year before the Shoemaker-Levy 9 impact. The prediction of the only two transits of Venus over a 220 year period is testament to the astronomical skills of the the early Americans. Though perhaps something was jumbled in the translation, because the prophesy states “the Red of Orion and Jupiter against White Blue of Pleiades and Venus.” The 2012 transit of Venus has Jupiter in the Pleiades against Venus in Orion.

Venus and Jupiter face off again on December 21 2012 as part of a Yod aspect pattern, apparently the same day as the 5,125 year cycle in the Mayan Long Count calendar comes to an end.

Jamie, 26 August 2009, updated 3 October 2010.

References:
1. When the Earth Shakes: the Cherokee Prophecies of 1811-12, Michelene E. Pesanmbbee, American Indian Quarterly, volume 17, issue 3, 1993, p.301.
2. Cherokee Star Constellation – Prophecy of the Rattlesnake, Crystalinks.
3. Star Names, Their Lore and Meaning, Richard Hinckley Allen, 1889, p.392, 398.
4. Book of Job, xxxviii, 31, Holy Bible, King James Version.
5. Fixed Stars and Constellations in Astrology, Vivian E. Robson, 1923, p.182.
6. Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 Collision with Jupiter, NASA, 04 February 2005.
7. Jupiter has lost a belt!, The Planetary Society Blog, 10 May 2010.

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47 Responses to Cherokee Rattlesnake Prophecy

  1. barb on February 4, 2011 at 11:19 am

    jamie..it’s Friday 9.16pm…the rain is really, really bad here in Melbourne…my son has just gone to St Kilda..he phoned me, he is up to his waist in water…have told him to stay “safe” and stay at his mates house, and fight the floods if needed…they said on the news that it wouldn’t get bad till the weekend…but it’s bad already…Barb.

    • Jamie on February 4, 2011 at 11:23 am

      I just checked the radar loop before you posted. looks like the moisture from the cyclone has fed down south and more really heavy rain coming: bom.gov.au/products/IDR021.loop.shtml#skip

  2. Justin on February 5, 2011 at 3:32 am

    Interesting read, thank you for putting it up. Just wanted to mention that i have had a dream somewhat akin to the ones mentioned here. The Stars didn’t appear to be “falling” per se, but they were shifting quickly and oddly.

    In that particular dream, i knew BIG Earth changes were happening, and speeding up.

    • Jamie on February 6, 2011 at 8:31 am

      Hi Justin, what you “knew” in your dream is similar to the message I got too. It’s interesting in dreams that you can get what they mean, like the general message without hearing the words specifically. There’s little doubt no that we are already seeing major earth changes.

    • Ceridwen on May 2, 2011 at 9:14 am

      I just saw that article on here, and actually I have stayed away from anything to do with the prophecies of the Mayas (and just heard about the Rattlesnake prophecy here on). Despite my attempts to stay away from that, I also have had a series of recurrent dreams last fall, in which the Pleiades and Orion were figuring quite strongly. In one dream it even appeared as if the constellation of Pleiades was “staggering” and there were big changes within it; actulaly in that dream there were rocks falling from the sky down to earth.

      It reminded me of a dream I was having in early 2005, when I was standing somewhere out in the night, looking up into the sky, and it was visibly changing. The constellations just moved in high speed and changed. It was a little bit creepy.

      • uberqueenofwands on November 1, 2011 at 10:34 pm

        i have had the same dream about the night sky changing at high speed – apparently lots of others have too! I started having these dreams back in the 1980s. Also dreams of the PLeaides. They foigure very strongly in our greeater history and future apparently. Look them up in Alic Bailey’s work and you’ll get quite an illumination.

      • Jamie on May 12, 2012 at 6:55 pm

        Marina and I were on the beach with the kids over Christmas at night and saw a strange light passing through the Pleiades. Sort of like a satellite or plane but not flashing, then it disappeared.

  3. Charyl on May 4, 2011 at 3:32 am

    So interesting to hear of these sky is falling dreams. Chicken Little really knew something after all. ah ha.

  4. katy colaizzo on August 2, 2011 at 4:00 am

    hey guys what do yu think of jose argulles and the law of time noosphere…

    • Jamie on May 12, 2012 at 6:58 pm

      I do believe that mass consciousness can transform things.

  5. Lihtan on March 26, 2012 at 5:58 am

    In the Cherokee Rattlesnake Prophecy, I’m pretty sure that the “Red of Orion” is a reference to Betelgeuse.

    • Jamie on May 12, 2012 at 6:59 pm

      Definitely.

  6. Steph on April 9, 2012 at 8:22 pm

    So interesting! Those two special Venus days. On June 8, 2004, the day after my 42nd b-day and during my uranus return in leo I traveled to the south Cal. Coast for a hypnotherapy training where I also practiced envisioning meeting my soulmate… March 2011 I met him as my Juno was conjunct the south node at 28 degrees Gemini. During the upcoming second Venus conjunction-June 6, 2012 he, with sun sign in Leo, will be finishing his medical training as an aesthetic surgeon and moving to his S. cal coast beach house. I envisioned living close to the ocean with him- although not too close considering the rising water levels! Uncanny that my hypnotherapy conference was held just a few miles from the coastal city where he grew up in s. Cal. My 50th birthday will fall on June 9, 2012- just a few days after the special Venus conjunction. Gotta love these Venusian unfoldings!!

  7. Stephanie on April 11, 2012 at 3:53 am

    Hmm. Meant to say – aquarius moon that day was opposite my natal uranus/leo- not my uranus return. I’m hearing that Rigel conjunct one’s sun, moon, MC or ascendant is positive – http://www.constellationsofwords.com “quick rise in life is promised on account of a strong, inherent will power, love of action, and a lucky hand in enterprise. A continuous battle to retain an acquired position has to be waged. This fight at the same time stimulates an increase in vigor. Even in spite of unhelpful aspects, success and reaching the set aim can be successful by this powerful concentration. If however the native is not cautious or has an attack of weakness, failure and disappointments, a fall from success will follow”. This fits to a T…..with the exception of the quick rise in life. I haven’t seen this yet, so I’m curious if the continuous battle I’ve waged with my business enterprise -these recent years- will result in a “quick rise” for me. Bring on the ascension!

    • Jamie on May 12, 2012 at 7:00 pm

      That is amazing Stephanie. I love seeing patterns like this through astrology. Bring it on indeed!

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